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When it comes to language debates, I would highly recommend Rich Hickey’s 2011 talk, “Simple Made Easy”. Most issues of “bad” languages and code readability come to issues of familiarity, not of complexity. Complexity exists in all languages, sometimes to different extents, but most language discussions don’t isolate complexity. They conflate the two issues.

That said, I’m down to duke it out over some PHP minutia lol

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come to issues of familiarity, not of complexity … They conflate the two issues

Okay, but have you seen Objective-C++?

You get two distinct syntaxes in one language that you can’t use interchangeably.

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I can’t think of any two compiled languages where allowing them to link against each other in a shared codebase would not balloon their complexity. So fair. I hope no one’s trying to do that without first being fluent in the two languages.

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Fair, but the problem is that Objective-C itself has the same problem because of the design decision to make it a superset of C

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I found a YouTube link in your comment. Here are links to the same video on alternative frontends that protect your privacy:

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