do the right wing guys think it’s like a draco malfoy thing where they’re a good guy underneath?

like when it’s like a lady and a cop and the lady seems like a normal sorta boring suburban lady

do you know what i mean. this is one of the things where if you try to ask an AI bot it yells at you

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The problem is that many personal decisions have systemic consequences. Things like weight gain, smoking or even poor resource utilization cause serious societal and environmental harm, and yet terminating relationships over them is generally criticised. (Many of the biggest issues {climate change, healthcare, drug abuse etc} faced are directly caused by poor personal habits, not voting).

So the question is out of all personal decisions, why are political views being carved out as an exception that is worthy of terminating a relationship?

“is so threatening”

Sometimes when you are criticised it’s because you are a complete moron, not because your ideas are so brilliant they send people running.

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Many of the biggest issues {climate change, healthcare, drug abuse etc} faced are directly caused by poor personal habits, not voting

This is just such utter nonsense. Many places around the world have made massive inroads into solving these problems and every single time, the solution has come from systemic policy decisions.

Healthcare has been addressed by various universal healthcare systems, drug abuse has been addressed through decriminalisation, offering of rehabilitation, and making sure people aren’t living under crushingly miserable economic conditions.

And climate change is not caused by individual decisions, but by the fact that our economic system only values profit, and thus incentivises the destruction of the environment to increase profit.

So the question is out of all personal decisions, why are political views being carved out as an exception that is worthy of terminating a relationship?

Because politics affects people’s lives. I could not care less if you’re a nice person to my face if you are voting for policies that make it impossible for me to live my life.

You talk about personal choices as if someone being overweight is going to measurably affect your life, when it just isn’t, no not even through increases in health insurance costs. And then downplay the actual effect of conservatives criminalising my healthcare.

One of those actions clearly has orders of magnitude more impact than the other. Yet strangely, you are concerned about the one with negligible impact, and want to ignore the one with considerable impact.

Sometimes when you are criticised it’s because you are a complete moron, not because your ideas are so brilliant they send people running.

You are below my contempt. Your ideas are simplistic and have been addressed decades ago. You are painfully boring.

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“This is such utter nonsense” So you don’t think that people choose to be wasteful?

Laws and personal decisions both cause systemic changes. And guess what, laws do not pass if people do not already engage in personal habits that the laws encourage. The tobacco restrictions would never have passed if it weren’t for personal decisions that lowered the rate of tobacco use.

“You strangely are more concerned about the one with negligible impact”

No, they both have consequences. I’m pointing out that the distinction being made that somehow political views have special considerations over all the other personal actions is worthless. (Remember what the actual topic was?)

Additionally do you realise how completely insane your argument is? A single voter does not determine laws, groups of voters do. Just like how a single smoker does not burden the healthcare system, millions of them do.

“Someone being overweight isn’t going to on measurably affect your life”

It is. Here’s the hard facts, overweight people are less happy, they have worse socialisation, they are unattractive ( which as much as people want to pretend like attractiveness doesn’t matter, it absolutely does when it comes to casual interaction), they have shorter, less productive lives, they increase health care costs. All of these effect society as a whole and the individual.

“And downplaying the actual effect of conservatives criminalising my healthcare”

I have no idea what you are talking about, I never downplayed any laws, you’re just fabricating that so you can justify your whining.

Look, I’m not a conservative but more importantly I’m not someone who conjures nonsensical arguments to justify some vague gut feeling I developed while eating poisonous mushrooms.

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“This is such utter nonsense” So you don’t think that people choose to be wasteful?

That’s not what I said. Read again.

And guess what, laws do not pass if people do not already engage in personal habits that the laws encourage.

Of course they do. Behaviour can follow legislation. Furthermore most of the legislation would need to target corporations, not individuals. In which case behaviour definitely follows legislation.

No, they both have consequences. I’m pointing out that the distinction being made that somehow political views have special considerations over all the other personal actions is worthless. (Remember what the actual topic was?)

Because one primarily affects the person making the decision, with smaller secondary effects on other people. And the other primarily affects other people, doing significantly more harm.

People being overweight does not affect you nearly as much as people voting to ban gay marriage or trans healthcare affects LGBT+ people.

It is. Here’s the hard facts,

Oh please.

overweight people are less happy,

Which is none of your business.

they have worse socialisation,

You are deeply unpleasant yourself, take the log out of your own eye.

they are unattractive ( which as much as people want to pretend like attractiveness doesn’t matter, it absolutely does when it comes to casual interaction),

Nobody owes you attractiveness you little freak.

they have shorter, less productive lives,

None of your business, how other people spend their lives.

they increase health care costs.

Old people increase healthcare costs. If unhealthy people die earlier as you say, then they probably save the system money.

All of these effect society as a whole and the individual.

Not even remotely to the degree that political action does. Voting outweighs all of that by many orders of magnitude.

I have no idea what you are talking about, I never downplayed any laws, you’re just fabricating that so you can justify your whining.

It’s called an “example” sweetheart.

Progressives aren’t ending relationships based on political stances around taxes. They’re ending relationships because of bigotry against marginalised groups.

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