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Netanyahu does not state that killing of civilians is his goal, nor does IDF purposely do that. Imagine the amount of civilian deaths if it were actually IDF’s goal, as it is for Hamas.

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Your argument might have more weight if the head of national security wasn’t a former member of the Kach party, a group Israel designated a terrorist group in 1994.

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“When he came of age for conscription into the Israel Defense Forces at 18, he was exempted from service by the IDF due to his extreme-right political background.”

What a guy. I thought militaries (and police) love those people.

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Israeli military is not for volunteers, it’s for everyone. The top ranking generals and chiefs of staff were prominent against Netanyahu and this extremist incompetent government. They are also said that human rights activists that give a voice to solders that saw atrocious acts of the idf itself. This is not the norm, contrary to what the media would have you think. This, according to the top ranking Israeli ex officers, is how the idf should fix its wrongs.

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But they kill plenty anyway.

Oops?

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Right human shields don’t exist

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They bombed a refugee camp. Twice.

If I were a military commander in WW2 with the same technology we have today, and Hitler was out in the open at an elementary school graduation next to a preschool, I would not make that order. Instead, I’d mobilize intelligence agents to get there immediately and tail him, while moving my forces nearby.

I find it hard to believe that Israeli military and intelligence agencies could not track him and wait. The IDF just cares more about their own skin than they do of Palestinian children.

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Both can exist. Don’t get binary.

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This is an important distinction in my opinion. Does the IDF care if they kill palestinian civilians? No. But they aren’t actively trying to murder as many palestinian civilians as they can either.

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Being so incredibly nonchalant about killing civilians as the IDF is it’s almost an insignificant difference imo.

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They aren’t? So why did they bomb Jabalia twice?

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Quick update, they bombed it a third time today

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How should I know. What I do know however is that if the IDF wanted, they could kill many more Gazans.

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Because Hamas has used it as a base for decades…

Just like every other piece of civilian infrastructure.

You say Jabalia like it hasn’t been a city since the 40s. It’s not some tent city. It’s a legitimate city that has been around for decades, which Hamas only took control of after 2007.

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Jabalia refugee camp consists of an area that is 1,4 km2. It had a registered population of about 50 000 inhabitants in 2017, who knows how much these days. It’s not exactly a small place, even if the term “refugee camp” might give that image.

So who knows. Perhaps they’re just murdering civilians, or perhaps a place like that is a perfect breeding ground for extremism.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jabalia_refugee_camp

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