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Hamas killed 1400 civilians.

The IDF has killed about 9500 civilians so far.

I dunno, I think that Hamas may not be the good guys, but they’re definitely the less bad guys.

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Give hamas same weaponry and intel as profoundly shit as IDF and israel might as well be one big crater

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Okay, but they don’t. And they likely never will.

Right now it’s like a 6yo child that punches you as hard as they can in the balls, and you respond by beating the fuck out of them with a tire iron. The fact that you could straight-up murder the child by shooting them in the fucking face doesn’t mean that breaking every bone in their hands along with both legs to “teach them a lesson” would be appropriate or proportionate.

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For sure, but that wasn’t really my point, which was intentions and goals. Hamas is not a “good guy” since they will take every chance of murdering and kidnapping israeli citizens if it’s by high-precision missiles or fucking gliders straight out of a comic book, and israelis aren’t the “good guys” for barraging palestinian civvies while taking tiktoks.

I feel vile for all this good guys bad guys rhetoric ffs gotta take a showa

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