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81 points

They’re not doing their supporters any favours with these sort of comments lol

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82 points

It’s easy to support Palestinian statehood. Anyone that supports Hamas is a moron.

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33 points

I was about to say, who’s out there supporting hamas

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27 points

The tankies are all over it, actually.

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18 points

Bro like literally 90% of Lemmy has a throbbing boner for Hamas and his stated antisemitic terrorists, even in this thread, terrorists apologizers abound

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15 points

You’ve not been in these threads for very long, have you?

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10 points

Tankies? The same people supporting Russia, China, and other brutalist regimes…

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9 points

You’d be surprised, they’re out there

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25 points

Considering Hamas is the organization governing Gaza right now, the two are often intertwined in these discussions

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24 points

Governing is a generous term

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18 points

It seems to me that Hamas “governs” Palestine the same way groups like the Mafia or Yakuza “govern” the people they extort.

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12 points

There is also the West Bank, however.

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-4 points

They’re the same picture.

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45 points

They shouldn’t have any fucking supporters. This is the shit all the anti-Israel people are supporting. I’m no fan of Netanyahu but wtf do they expect Israel to do? It’s like everyone forgot what prompted this and thinks Israel just woke up one morning and decided to raze everything because they were bored.

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22 points

I’m no fan of Netanyahu but wtf do they expect Israel to do?

I expect them not to commit war crimes at a bare minimum.

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11 points

Yes, not indiscriminately murdering civilians would be nice.

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8 points

Are you suggesting that when Israel bombs a refugee camp and kills all those innocent people that somehow that is a reasonable response?

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5 points

It’s a disproportionate response, and misdirected. But it is definitely a response to something real, which the more rabid anti-Israel types seem to gloss over.

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2 points

Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

What did you expect? Do you think that hitting a wasp nest with a rod just once means you’ll only be stung once because you only hit it once? There’s no rule stating that the wasps must respond with equal magnitude. If people are now getting hurt, it’s because someone provoked the wasps. The notion that reactions must be proportionate to the offense is quite naive.

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These fuckers kidnapped US citizens, they deserve 100% of whatever bombs we throw at them until our people are freed.

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7 points

being both anti-israel and anti-hamas at the same time is the only correct position i don’t understand why this isn’t obvious

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-3 points

Because Hamas is the only resistance Palestinians have against the colonizer.

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3 points

Yeah, what prompted this already ? can you remind us ?

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1 point

You just gotta take that line of thought one step further. I believe in you.

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6 points

I don’t 👍

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What prompted this? You mean the decades of occupation? Or are you suggesting history only began with the Hamas attack?

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-2 points

Well, that not totally incorrect. The settlers starting moving in (before the nation was a thing) and started killing and displacing the existing inhabitants. It’s been bad from the start, though they have had periods that are better than others. People excuse Israel for what Hamas has done, but rarely do those same people forgive Hamas for what the Jewish settlers have done.

Personally, I don’t make a judgment on Hamas. They are a much weaker force against a much stronger force. If they fight a conventional war then they don’t stand a chance. Gorilla warfare/terrorism is the only viable option for them. Israel uses terrorism every day, but it’s only bad when Hamas does it?

I do judge Israel. They are a strong force, and more importantly are getting support from many other powerful nations. Until my country (the US) stops sending support, I will criticize their actions. I do not condone my money going towards what they do.

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20 points

Which supporters? This is a boon to Vladimir Putin, as world attention and aid to Israel comes at a cost to support for Ukraine.

By escalating the conflict to a genocidal ground war, Israel’s criminal leaders may have doomed not only Israelis, but the people of Ukraine as well.

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-10 points

Which supporters?

People supporting the Palestinian side in this conflict

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23 points

Don’t confuse support for Palestinians as support for Hamas.

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I support the innocent Palestinian people who are being slaughtered. Does that mean I support Hamas? Because I think Hamas is an Iranian puppet that wants a Palestinian caliphate run under Sharia law. I don’t think they help the Palestinian people either. So am I a Hamas supporter? By your definition, apparently.

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The only issue I see are the dumbasses that cant tell the difference, supporting Palestinians doesn’t mean support for Hamas. But if you don’t think they need some sort of military support in one way or another you don’t need to be making comments about it and need to instead go back and read a little history about the Israelie Occupation and Crimes Against Humanity thats taken place. Hell you wouldn’t even have to go back in time very far but a year maybe less, but I suggest to get the full picture and decent understanding to allow yourself to come and discuss world topics with other adults that you start from the beginning.

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15 points

Not to condone their actions, but what would Hamas care about getting supporters? Palestine situation hasn’t been helped much at all by international supporters, so it’s not like they care about that.

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28 points

The two are linked together. When aid has been sent to Palestine, to help Palestinians, Hamas has taken it for themselves. There was an EU project I believe to build water infrastructure, and Hamas took it apart to make into rockets.

I don’t think it’s possible to provide material support to the Palestinians. Hamas just takes it all. It’s so fucked.

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9 points

Palestine is dependent on foreign aid to continue its war fighting. Specifically aid from western nations. They need supporters to feed, fuel and supply it’s military and populace.

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6 points

Might make people less happy to support pummeling them if they weren’t acting like such villains

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0 points

Yeah why would they use civilians as human shields to gather the physical and online support of the easily misled and swayed masses of the west

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Not to condone their actions, but what would Hamas care about getting supporters?

For one, all the Hamas supporters are asking the US to tell Israel to stop attacking them.

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