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25 points

That image is quite a niche scenario and doesn’t represent the situation in the original image.

Obviously it’s different with a group of eight compared to just two people…

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10 points

niche scenario

Never been to a country where road cycling is massive then? Try living in anyplace that has Alps in it lol

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22 points

You’re right. I live in a city and have never seen more than four people cycling together.

It’s almost like cycling in the alps is a niche situation, and cycling in cities happens much more frequently 🤔

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-6 points

That all depends on the type of cycling, and what you call a city

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9 points

How is it different though? In the original picture you can safely overtake the two of them in about half the time and half the available opening in traffic compared to them riding single file.

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3 points

That’s not safely overtaking. That’s squeezing through and if there’s a chance vehicle will get hit he will push the cyclists out.

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-18 points

Because the image assumes that a driver can only ever safely overtake if they’re completely in the other lane, which simply isn’t true.

It also assumes that there will be an opportunity where the other lane is completely free for them to move into it.

Overtaking eight people in a line is going to have a large time saving if they’re cycling in twos, but when you scale that down to just two then the difference is negligible and the space saving is more important.

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13 points

Your theory rests on the assumption that I value my life and safety lower than two seconds the driver could shave off of their journey time. Or thirty seconds. Or two days.

Well, buddy, you’re wrong.

Even if I’m riding alone I’m not riding in the gutter where I have a greater risk of puncture from debris, and a greater risk of some idiot close passing in a 3 ton umbrella.

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9 points

I don’t think you understand the point of the image

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5 points

Have a closer read of points 2 and 3 in the image. For most lanes there isn’t enough width for cyclist + wobbling side to side + 1.5m margin + car. So the car needs to overtake in the other lane, which means the other lane needs to be completely free of cars.

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6 points

In my experience this is like 80% of overtaking situations when cycling. Far from niche.

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