lemm.ee

1 point

1 year ago

Do you consider a business employing people to mutually ageed standards moral?

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Riskable@programming.dev

6 points

1 year ago

Business aren’t moral entities and it should never be assumed that they will act as such. In fact, the basis by which one should assume a business will operate is on profits and profits alone.

Therefore, if you want to make business behave in any sort of moral fashion their behavior must be regulated and businesses with a history of societal harm must be highly regulated.

Based on these truths one must view with a highly skeptical eye anyone who wishes to broadly remove regulations without specificities as to which ones they want to remove and why the regulation is unnecessary. The belief that regulations are bad–generally speaking–is an inherently unethical and immoral position.

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-2 points

1 year ago

Yeah. So literally using police to force shit is just bros being bros. Hiring someone to paint your fence, oppression. Got it.

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Emanresu@lemmy.world

4 points

1 year ago

What a completely dishonest and bad faith response.

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0 points

1 year ago

Just being reductionist doesn’t make it bad faith. I do appreciate your response and I’m sorry I just wasn’t into digging into weeds of justification.

It doesn’t really do any good to go back and forth and call our views when we have wild deviations at a very basic level.

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Emanresu@lemmy.world

2 points

1 year ago

What makes it bad faith is that you made no attempt to respond to what Riskable said, and instead said something silly to try and steal a win in the convo.

If you agree police should exist, then you also agree that the government sets the rules about what they enforce. If someone paints my fence with some hyper toxic paint, then it should be illegal. Riskable was implying that businesses will reliably degrade quality and safety until the legal minimums and sometimes we need to put effort into regulating some basic standards.

Now, on the other hand, conservatives are usually INCREASING regulations that the police follow, doing the closest things to genital checks and hauling people away to prison for having a now illegal abortion as bad examples.

Conservatives say they want less regulation, when you guys are the ones in power maxing out regulations against existing in harmless ways… we just want toxic paint banned, or the real example… we don’t want a climate apocalypse, we want PFOA style chemicals banned and forced incineration of all odd chemicals, we want basic human and animal rights, we want the last ecosystems for natural non human life preserved… and conservatives just want the last checks and balances that protect us removed while adding ten times more regulation against people you hate and yourselves in the process.

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1 point

1 year ago

I was trying to get an idea of their ideas. I asked a simple question and got a huge response that just veered wild. I apologized for them putting in that effort.

I’m not a conservative I just believe in individual rights. I mentioned it elsewhere, but there’s no coherent definition of conservative to be found. If you want to call a dude with pro-choice and trans stickers on his wallet conservative, you do you.

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