By MAYA ZANGER-NADIS NOVEMBER 12, 2023 19:09 Updated: NOVEMBER 12, 2023 21:26


Israeli security forces delivered 300 liters of diesel fuel to Shifa Hospital in Gaza early Sunday morning and later received intelligence indicating that Hamas had intercepted the delivery, according to a Sunday night IDF statement.

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Why is fuel being blockaded in the first place?

Israel is starving out the civilian population and then acts shocked when terrorists steal from civilians.

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Hamas puts their rocket launchers next to schools, so the only way to take out their ability to launch rockets at Israeli civilians also has a high likelihood of damaging the school. Hamas puts terrorist HQs in tunnels under hospitals, weapons caches in apartment buildings, and so on. This is deliberate; the point is to increase Palestinian suffering in order to ensure that Palestinians and Israelis cannot make peace, with the ultimate aim of establishing a new Islamic State in Palestine.

Unlike the PLO, Hamas has never been signatory to the Geneva Conventions. Hamas explicitly repudiates the notion of a civilian/military distinction, both for Israelis and for Palestinians.

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And that justifies bombing civilians being used as human shields?

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There’s a really good reason that nations should comply with international law and not do shit like deliberately put military targets in civilian buildings.

There’s a really good reason that nations in armed conflict should comply with international law and not conceal military targets as medical facilities.

Why? Because doing those things makes the civilian buildings and medical facilities into legitimate military targets.

A major goal of the international law of war is to reduce civilian suffering. The rules that Hamas is breaking, are rules that exist to reduce civilian suffering – in this case, the suffering of Palestinian civilians.

But yeah, if your foe is shooting at you from an ambulance, yes you get to take out the ambulance. If your foe is shooting rockets from a school, yes you get to take out the school. Ambulances and schools aren’t supposed to be shooting at all.

But again, Hamas doesn’t recognize a civilian/military distinction. This makes them a really shitty government.

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You see to be justifying that? As in “well of course the terrorists are stealing the fuel”? And yet you are at the same time blaming Israel for the fuel shortage? Wow.

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Fuel can be used to power rockets.

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With diesel?

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With diesel, Hamas can power air circulation vents in their tunnels, as well as water pumps (some people in comments on Lemmy said that the low sea level there may affect the depth of the tunnels).

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Probably not their rockets but continuing their war effort in other ways that absolutely doesn’t benefit the citizens of Gaza and especially not the people who are in danger because Hamas is actively doing everything they can to maximize collateral damage, suffering and casualties on all sides of this conflict.

Top that off with how a lot of their funding comes from Iran and their recruiting goes all over the middle east, the psycopaths in Hamas right now are not likelu Palestinian or have any empathy for the people they use as an excuse to attack innocent civilians.

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