You are viewing a single thread.
View all comments View context
26 points
*

You’re right. If you can afford something you like you should steal it, it’s much better. Whenever I go into a library I just take a bag and dump all the books and take them home. Why should I put in the effort of wasting my time(meaning money I could have earned) signing a library card when I can just steal? It’s THE MOST EFFICIENT WAY. That’s how I stay RICH. I never pay. Whenever I see someone about to pay for something they want I just steal their money, why should they keep it if they’re not smart enough to not waste it? Their money is much safer with me. The apartment I’m currently living in is so cheap, because I never pay. I just changed all the locks, have triple bolts on all the doors and just stay here. It’s mine, it’s free and they can’t kick me out because I won’t let them. Why should I pay for the internet when it’s basically flowing free through these wires and air? I just take some from my neighbor. When I go to a coffee shop I just grab the first drink I see that’s on the counter. If they’re not fast enough to take their drink, I take it, it’s just sitting there, it’s free.

permalink
report
parent
reply
3 points

When you steal books from a library, you’re preventing others from accessing those books. When you download a digital copy of a book, you aren’t.

Same thing with money. If you stole my money, I’d be upset, but I wouldn’t be upset if I had infinite money.

permalink
report
parent
reply
9 points

steal

Tldr~ the comment isn’t relevant as piracy isn’t stealing

permalink
report
parent
reply
14 points

I’m not sure whether to agree or not, but he’s got the point in the following sense: if everyone will pirate and never donate to the creator, then the creator will get about zero returns and will likely go make a living doing something else.

So pirate + donate looks like more fair redistribution of wealth, while pirate + no pay looks like being greedy asshole same as corporations

permalink
report
parent
reply
4 points

Honestly, you should go watch Benn Jordan: https://youtu.be/gDfNRWsMRsU?si=TWErOa6A1XxvFpJu

He makes some great points and has some personal examples. He made more money by releasing the album on torrents and asking for donations compared to the normal ways of releasing your music.

permalink
report
parent
reply
-6 points

Piracy is literally theft…

permalink
report
parent
reply
1 point
Deleted by creator
permalink
report
parent
reply
0 points

Piracy is. Filesharing isn’t.

permalink
report
parent
reply
9 points

Just curious, why do you not consider piracy stealing? It seems to me that if you take something of value from someone without compensation then that might as well be stealing

permalink
report
parent
reply
0 points

It’s actually quite simple. If I steal your car, I have your car and you don’t. If I clone your car, you still have your car. Theft leaves you poorer, copying doesn’t.

Now, there is a valid cargument about me having some benefit from some vehicle designers’ IP without having paid for it, but it is not necessarily true that if I couldn’t clone it I would definitely have bought it. So the clone cannot be considered a proven lost sale.

The law actually supports this. Nobody has ever been prosecuted for piracy under the laws of theft (except back in the day when piracy actually was theft, shiver me timbers and all that sort of stuff). It’s always copyright violation, and in sensible countries the prosecution have to prove there has been substantial material loss to the IP owner, which in the case of single copies for personal use is virtually impossible (especially where we all have to pay a blank media tax which compensates copyright owners for copies that might be made, even where those media are not used for copying someone else’s IP, which is scandalous, but here we are), but where someone has cloned stuff and gone on to either sell copies of ther clones that’s a lot easier.

permalink
report
parent
reply
-1 points

But pirates aren’t taking anything

permalink
report
parent
reply
7 points

You make a copy of something of value, you don’t steal it. It’s still there afterwards

permalink
report
parent
reply

Piracy: ꜱᴀɪʟ ᴛʜᴇ ʜɪɢʜ ꜱᴇᴀꜱ

!piracy@lemmy.dbzer0.com

Create post
⚓ Dedicated to the discussion of digital piracy, including ethical problems and legal advancements.

Rules • Full Version

1. Posts must be related to the discussion of digital piracy

2. Don’t request invites, trade, sell, or self-promote

3. Don’t request or link to specific pirated titles, including DMs

4. Don’t submit low-quality posts, be entitled, or harass others


Loot, Pillage, & Plunder


💰 Please help cover server costs.


Community stats

  • 4.6K

    Monthly active users

  • 3.3K

    Posts

  • 85K

    Comments