It’s also in my experience the most terminally online leftists are the ones going online complaining about other people not voting instead of like actually doing organizing. I certainly don’t see a lot of them outside the internet or when doing things that actually matter instead of putting a piece of paper in a box thinking it changes anything.

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america will only do 99.99% genocide instead of 100% genocide

I don’t even know if that’s true.

It seems that a vote for Biden is a vote for 200% genocide abroad, while a vote for Trump is for 100% more genocide at home.

We perceive Trump as more dangerous because he’s expressed a strong desire to bring imperialism back within the Core. But if you look at his foreign policies, was anything under Trump even remotely as horrific as Obama’s wrecking of Libya and Syria or Biden’s holocaust in Ukraine? Even the shit at the US/Mexico border pales in comparison to the nightmares Obama/Biden inflicted in Haiti and continue to sponsor in the Philippines.

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I think you’re forgetting that Trump was the one that pushed for and moved and the US embassy in Israel to Jerusalem and then formally recognised Jerusalem to be the Capital of Israel in 2017 against tons of pushback. He was actively instigating this.

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I don’t think that’s any indication of the degree of genocide he would support. The precedent is clear, if you’re president of the USA you 100% support Israel and anything Israel does.

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Obama’s droning was bad but don’t let Trump fool you. He stopped the mandatory reporting of drone strikes, but not the actual drone strikes. And of course once Biden became president none of the libs thought it was necessary to start reporting them again.

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He stopped the mandatory reporting of drone strikes, but not the actual drone strikes.

Oh sure. He signed off the mission to bomb our own airfield in Iraq to kill a diplomatic party visiting from Iran. He sponsored numerous coups in Latin America. Dude rubber stamped a long tradition of fascist foreign policy.

But nothing on the scale of Libya, Ukraine, or Israel.

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Trump also made the situation in Cuba, the sole AES state in the Americas beyond Chiapas, far far worse. Biden hasn’t intensified it but also hasn’t made it less bad, so, they’re both overwhelmingly negative in that regard.

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Trump also made the situation in Cuba, the sole AES state in the Americas beyond Chiapas, far far worse.

Worse than the 90s? Idk. Its very hard to get a read on what’s happening in Cuba when I’m not being inundated with pictures of Miguel Díaz-Canel at a sit-in with captions like “This Man Yearns For Freedom”. Trump rolled back a bunch of the milquetoast reforms implemented under Obama, which definitely sucked. But I don’t see much to suggest he subjected Cuba to anything like what Puerto Rico or Haiti endured under Obama.

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Nope, I have to tell you flatly that it is a second special period there. For more information and context watch The War on Cuba by the Belly of the Beast Collective. Ever since the US has been buying Venezuelan oil and Trump made the blockade worse it’s been harder to do anything and 400k Cubans have emigrated every year.

Without the communist party at the helm and it’s good governance things would be so, so much worse; but things are still bad for the average person.

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