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Casemiro was never overpriced or questionable. He was valued exactly what he was worth and definitely one of the least questionable signings Manchester United has made.

Of course this was at the time of his signing.

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Casemiro signing was always questionable. Letting along the obscene amount of money on a 30 y/o, the guy is pretty much the opposite of every Ten Haag football idea: a slow midfield destroyer pretty poor with his feet for a manager who strives for possession and high pressing never made sense. They basically obliged him to switch to a transitional team

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Casemiro is far from “poor with his feet”.

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His pass percentage last season plummeted every time he played against a team competent enough to keep him under pressure, you think that’s a coincidence?

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definitely one of the least questionable signings Manchester United has made.

It’s less than 18 months since they signed him for £60m and now he’s getting binned off and yet he’s not a questionable signing? Sure thing mate.

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I don’t think Casemiro is the issue. He was arguably the best CDM in the world when he signed. Granted, he was in a world class setup at Madrid where he had basically played his whole career.

But Casemiro as a player has been, overall, one of UTDs shining lights.

It’s difficult to play your best when you’re demotivated and man utd is a shambles

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Don’t think we’d have got top 4 without him. I’d imagine Champions League football is worth about that, even if we’ve crashed and burned in it.

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A lot of the financial boost to getting CL football gets burned on player bonuses though

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You’re speaking in retrospect while completely ignoring the fact that the dude just tried to clarify that he meant without retrospective knowledge.

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Yeah, because he ninja edited in the last part, and people absolutely did question it at the time too.

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He was arguably our most important player last season.

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He was one of our most important players, he was brilliant for all of last season.

I don’t know what happened this season.

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Lots of minutes with little to no rest due to no replacement and the team are pressing higher mean he is asked to press more intense than before. All combined to him rarely being fit for all 90 mins and wouldn’t be in the position to defend counter as he and Ten Hag want

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Ten Hag switched to an insane high press two-10s system leaving midfield even more exposed than before, leaving Case completely exposed having to do the work of two men. Then after Case misplaced one pass and we conceded he gets blamed for being shit when in reality it was the change to an unworkable system that practically doomed our early season results.

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Is he being binned off? Why are you so certain about trusting the Daily Mail?

You’re acting like the transfer is actually happening right now, not like you’ve read a story in a paper which routinely makes things up.

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He’s not getting binned off.

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There 100% was questions whether £60 mil price tag and 4 year contract for a 30 year old DM on 350k a week was overpriced. A bit revisionist to pretend there weren’t question marks at the time

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29 year old DM on mega wages from Madrid is definitely questionable. I can’t ever recall a time where Madrid have gotten the short end of the stick when getting rid of one of their big stars, that alone should’ve raised question marks. Madrid are very good at assessing the level of their players

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I can’t ever recall a time where Madrid have gotten the short end of the stick when getting rid of one of their big stars.

Robben, Makelele, Sneijder and Ozil (to a slightly lesser degree) all performed at a world class level after leaving Madrid.

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I’ve said it elsewhere on the thread but Robben and Sneijder weren’t performing at Madrid, was definitely best for them to move elsewhere. Makelele was sold as result of a failed vanity project, Ozil was sold because he was no longer going to be a starter with the emergence of Isco and signing of Bale.

A player performing at a world class level for Madrid who is still at the top of their game generally never leaves Madrid

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Id say odegaard but that is with hindsight. He couldnt break into the first 11 at the time

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He wasn’t a big star though

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Hakimi

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