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That’s because like vegans, there is a moral imperative that most ignore or don’t care about, we have a genuine emotional attachment to foss, and because you are ignorant of the topic, you don’t care to listen.

What he said is harmless, true, and there is a moral imperative to say it, and ontop of that it isn’t like a diet, it’s better software that respects you, doesn’t spy on you, and for free and the only downside is a 15 minute install process (and the use of a flash drive). Why do you care enough to fight that?

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I’m all for Linux and have been using it for years, but saying a 15min install is the only downside is disingenuous. For many people there are a few programs they rely on that won’t work on Linux, and hardware support and general user-friendliness are still not quite where they should be.

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the vast majority of hardware is supported, and as someone who works IT and gives linux to the elderly, I don’t agree at all with the user unfriendliness, provided you use mint and kde.

If your software doesn’t run that does suck, but the vast majority of usecases work perfectly with the breif explanation of “use the app store for any software you need to install.” Do you have any examples of user friendliness issues, or is it just that there are choices to make at all?

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“The vast majority” is useless if the hardware someone has doesn’t work, and you usually don’t get official support and warranty from the manufacturer for Linux. There are also some categories like webcams, audio equipment or fingerprint readers where Linux support is still notoriously bad. And even if something mostly works, it’s fairly common for some hardware to have missing features, instabilities or minor issues on Linux. E.g. my mouse works on Linux ofc, but the software to set and edit profiles doesn’t.

Usability issues are mostly cases where you have to fall back to the terminal. An example from my experience would be that trying to upgrade the system from the app store fails half the time, so I have to use the terminal. Another would be a failed boot or graphics issues due to a broken Nvidia driver installation or messed up SELinux policies. It’s all fixable in the terminal, but good luck if you can’t use that.

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Honestly true. At the very most you have to make certain switches to some software. For elderly people these switches are pretty minor since often they aren’t needing something like industry software for their work and at most will need to switch to like… LibreOffice, OnlyOffice or something of the sort. Not hard. For people in a job that may need design software like any Adobe product, there are Plenty of alternatives that work pretty well. Main thing is just spending a few days to get used to it and learning the differences. Only big thing I’d say that would be very hard to switch to Linux is if you make Music. Because if you use FL Studio, the closest alternative is LMMS… and it sorta sucks and at times is very uncomfortable to work with. You’d probably have to switch to Ardour or Reaper which would be a pretty massive change… Overall though, those account for a small number of people.

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edit: I meant to say this to the one you replied to!

I agree with you. Plus, most of us are forced to use Windows 11 at work, where we spend most of our screen time.

Maybe I can bother with Linux at home, but that’s a fraction of the use case here.

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I agree with you. Plus, most of us are forced to use Windows 11 at work, where we spend most of our screen time.

Maybe I can bother with Linux at home, but that’s a fraction of the use case here.

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In fact, installation is one of the easiest parts unless you use vanilla arch

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Just fuck off and let me use whatever OS I want

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Nobody has forced you to do anything, suggesting better, more respectful software is not force, why bother fighting against a more ethical alternative that respects you?

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You’re free to choose and they’re free to criticise.

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If linux was a better software, it would have a substantial desktop share. But it doesn’t since it’s the most unintuitive userhating software built by man.

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Because as we all know, the free market always comes up with the correct answer and is never distorted by companies.

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I’ve never seen any OS being shilled like linux, it even beats apple fanboys during its heyday. A free OS that’s constantly pushed down our throats should by all means be a consumers number 1 choice if it was good.

But I guess having to learn 5 million commands to open a folder is bad design, who knew? I have better use for my time than debug drivers and figure out dependencies when W10 sort of works all that out for me in an intuitive fashion.

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