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what’s the upside

That all groups are equally protected under the law, whether you like them or not. I’m sure AIPAC would love to designate supporting the liberation of Palestine a hate crime. I’m sure that corporate lobbyists would love to designate unions as a violent and disruptive organizations.

Would you defend the rise of ISIS in the US for the same reasons

If they are committing concrete acts of violence, no. If they rise as a political body, then yes.

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Both ISIS and the Nazis have committed a huge amount of violence, yet you defend them - why?

You don’t see the issue with comparing two groups whose objective is genocide with two groups with fairly specific goals oriented around freedom, which have committed sporadic violence serving those ends?

For what it’s worth, I place Hamas in the Nazi/ISIS bucket for consistent reasons.

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I don’t have to support a group’s actions to still believe they have the same human rights of freedom of speech and thought that others do. There’s a reason that human rights apply to everyone, even prisoners. Even monsters. Stripping away fundamental rights from the “right” people is not a moral stance.

I defend their human rights for the same reason I defend yours.

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You drew the line at violence, but defend the Nazis and ISIS - What’s the bar for unacceptable violence? More than the 17 million people the Nazis killed, obviously, but where is that line?

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