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I didn’t have a gas stove until I was in my late 40’s. I will not willingly go back to conventional electric. Gas stoves are better. Finer control, faster temp changes (esp. when decreasing).

I’d be willing to try an induction stove. They’re rare in the US, but my limited experience with them was positive. Not quite as nice as a gas stove, but miles better than an conventional electric range, and good enough that the easier cleaning would tip me over.

You mention propeganda; it’s odd that the only propeganda I encounter is the anti-gas kind. It’s non-stop on NPR and social media. I haven’t heard or read a single pro-gas piece.

Edit: I think you were only talking about induction, so I changed some phrasing.

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Gas stoves are better. Finer control, faster temp changes (esp. when decreasing).

Gas stoves are better in some ways, but β€œfiner control” is debatable. If you turn the knob from 0 to 10, it’s obvious that the energy output is non-linear. On my stove the flame has like 50% of its increase between level 2 and 3 or 4. You also have a more narrow range of heat with gas. That is, the lowest setting has to be high enough that the flame does not blow out, so the min heat is higher than the min level on electric. Electric also gets hotter than gas on the high end.

With electric you get precise control. Power level 5 gives exactly half the heat energy that 10 gives; power level 6 is exactly triple the heat of power level 2. You don’t get that precision with gas. You can only eye-ball it which means harder to get reproduceable results.

You probably meant to say gas gives you /immediate/ control. Conventional electric is quite slow, but induction is fast.

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Maybe it’s a brand or quality difference; I can pretty finely control the flame on our range.

β€œControl” is the ability to adjust to a desired temp with fine accuracy, right? I can see the flame, and observe changes more rapidly, with gas. Isn’t this finer-grained control?

A common residential electric range outputs a max 7,000 BTUs. A common gas stove outputs max 18,000 BTUs. Electric stoves are not hotter on the high end.

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Gas stoves lose a majority of those BTUs to the air around your pot.

A 18,000 BTU stove should be equivalent to 5300W of electric heating, alas, my 1500W kettle boils water substantially faster than my gas stove

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β€œControl” is the ability to adjust to a desired temp with fine accuracy, right? I can see the flame, and observe changes more rapidly, with gas. Isn’t this finer-grained control?

You’re eye-balling it, so you have good control over what your eyeball sees, but then that mental image has to lead to a judgement. Imagine if you were doing a scientific experiment where you need reproducible results and the amount of heat energy were important to the experiment. Would you write in the scientific paper β€œthe flame looked like about 1cm with each sample tested”? You could meter the gas but the heat losses are higher as the flame grows because you’re heating increasingly more of the air around the pan.

A common residential electric range outputs a max 7,000 BTUs. A common gas stove outputs max 18,000 BTUs. Electric stoves are not hotter on the high end.

Gas stoves probably lose half their energy by heating the air all around the pot so you have to account for that. With electric much more of the BTUs actually make it to the food (esp. induction). When I search around, articles out in the wild are all over the place… some saying electric coils get hotter than gas and some saying the contrary. One article concurs with you, saying a gas burner reaches 1950Β°C and electric 900Β°C. I don’t see any articles mentioning electric burners that get into the four figures among those that actually give temperature figures so perhaps you’re right. But it’s worth noting that a pot of water boils faster on electric than gas.

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I haven’t heard or read a single pro-gas piece.

Right-wing media apparently. Not American, but from what I gather if you watch NPR, you’re a communist and a homosexual. So that means you won’t be watching real American media like Fox News.

Stuff like this from a member of congress:

β€œI’ll NEVER give up my gas stove. If the maniacs in the White House come for my stove, they can pry it from my cold dead hands. COME AND TAKE IT!!”

https://twitter.com/RonnyJacksonTX/status/1612839703018934274?t=ptxUxaAhqE1ax8FwY15cyA

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Idk why β€œwatch NPR” is so funny to me right now lmao

I’m so sleep deprived

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from what I gather if you watch NPR, you’re a communist and a homosexual.

Cmon, I’m not impressed by your knowledge. This is written in the first paragraph of the constitution.

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GF was a professional cook for 15 years, still prefers our induction stove to the gas stoves she worked on all this time.

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Yeah, I can believe I could learn to prefer induction. They’re just incredibly rare in residential US homes, which is where I live, and what the article was about.

The only place I’ve encountered an induction stove was in the EU, where - I gather - they’re more common.

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They’re starting to become more widespread in the US as people understand the health risks that come with gas stoves.

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This here shows where the propaganda appears:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hX2aZUav-54

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