[Mortgage Is ‘Just A Fancy Bullsh*t Word For Paying Rent For 30 Years To The Bank,’ Says Real Estate Billionaire Grant Cardone — Here’s Why Renting Could Be A Better Financial Move

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It costs money to buy, sell, and broker house/mortgage.

Its true that you need to save up the initial down payment. But in the long run it’s smarter to do so, than renting.

People have to live in their houses (in a normal economy) for like 3-5 years before even making a break even point on home.

It’s definitely not a short-term investment, unless you really try to play the real estate market.

But I’m not speaking towards trying to turn a short-term profit, just not having a short/long-term loss.

Put it another way, whose mortgage would you want to pay off, yours, or someone else’s?

Finally, real estate prices continue to always go up, so even if you had to sell short-term where you’ve been paying mostly interest you could probably sell the property for more value to make up the difference.

Just bought my first house and we’re drowning in interest at the moment.

All home loans are mostly paying interest up front, it’s not into the later years of the loan when you start paying substantial principle payments.

A neat trick is to always make an extra small principal only payment with each month mortgage payment, and that can change a 30 year loan to an 18 year loan.

Just make sure the write in the memo field on your check “principal only payment”, or else the loan company will try to just take that extra money and put it on the interest only portion of the loan (they’re tricky that way).

Rents will fall faster when interes rates change

Historically rental costs have always gone up, and not down.

Did you mean the monthly mortgage payment amount on a home loan?

BUT it’ll be better for us in the long run.

Ownership truly is better.

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This is all neglecting that after that 18-30 years, you don’t have that payment. Also, if you get a home that is much closer to your annual income, you can pay it off in a much shorter time. With the way properties are going right now that is almost a joke to say, but here I am, living on a dream. Also, having dealt with slumlord landleeches charging me $1k/month for a house that would have sold for $30k five years ago, I can honestly say that I never want to be subjected to a landlord again. Banks may be scummy, but they are heavily legislated scummy. Also, I would much rather be responsible for my house than some asshole. The house has mold, sparking outlets, the foundation is cracked in multiple locations, and huge cracks are forming in all of the walls as the house warps working towards collapse. And when I brought this all to the landlord’s attention they tried to illegally evict me and raised my rent by $125/month. We immediately started viewing new places. My wife is pregnant, and if that baby has a single birth defect I am suing these two into oblivion.

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This is all neglecting that after that 18-30 years, you don’t have that payment.

I don’t understand this sentence?

When you’re done with the loan and it’s paid off you don’t have to make any more payments, so I’m not sure what you’re trying to express?

Edit: I understand now. It was implied in what I was saying, so not being ignored. I was assuming people would know that when a mortgage is done being paid off you no longer have to continue to make payments.

Also, if you get a home that is much closer to your annual income, you can pay it off in a much shorter time.

Oh totally agree. I was suggesting 30 because most people seem to only have enough money to make a down payment on a 30-year loan. If you can get a 15-year loan that’s much better.

I personally always got 15-year loans, because with those loans you end up paying the least amount of interest on. Thirty year loans are horrible, considering how much interest you have to pay versus principal, which is why I would suggesting you try to pay it off faster than the 30 years by paying a little bit extra every month with extra principal payments.

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When you’re done with the loan and it’s paid off you don’t have to make any more payments, so I’m not sure what you’re trying to express?

I was tacitly contrasting it with renting. After 30 years of renting, you still are going to be paying rent.

I personally always got 15-year loans, because with those loans you end up paying the least amount of interest on. Thirty year loans are horrible, considering how much interest you have to pay versus principal, which is why I would suggesting you try to pay it off faster than the 30 years by paying a little bit extra every month with extra principal payments.

I was less commentating on the term of the loan and more on the total principal value. That said, for some insane reason, a 15-year mortgage also has a lower interest rate, so it is fundamentally the better option. But even with that, if you make $50k/year and are able to find a livable property for 75-80k, and get the 15-year, ostensibly there is little in one’s way from paying it off in 7 to 10 years. Unfortunately livable houses for that price don’t exist anymore for most of the US and making 50k is still a pipe dream. I don’t even make that much and I have a Master’s degree.

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I think you’re neglecting to factor in the opportunity cost of investing that down payment over time. Granted most people don’t have the necessary discipline so I agree a mortgage is a great way to force yourself to invest and probably best for most people.

But I’m not convinced it’s going to make you wealthier in the long run vs putting all that money saved for a down payment in broad market ETFs and staying disciplined about it.

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