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When did I ever claim that words meant anything in terms of whether someone was something?

It does not. We’ve already covered this. Are you mental? A claim to be something doesn’t make someone that thing. Do I need to keep repeating the “golfer” and “musician” examples? I’m not arguing in circles. You seem to be twisting yourself into knots, though.

Tell me you don’t understand the Vonnegut quote without telling me you don’t understand it…

Edit: Just as nonsensical - “Claiming to be a golfer has a lot to do with whether or not people consider you a golfer by the common understanding of the word”. Oh really? I thought it was whether or not you play golf that determined if you were a golfer.

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When did I ever claim that words meant anything in terms of whether someone was something?

I’ve lost track of the post, but at some point you were saying someone can’t be a Jew if they deny the Commandments or something similar. Now, by your logic maybe a “denial” is some sort of action, but denials by common definition usually take the form of words, not actions.

Now, if actions are all that count for someone to be considered “a Christian” or “not Christian”, only a complete knowledge of every action a person ever took or will take would suffice for qualifying them or disqualifying them as Christian. So then again, you’d have to basically be God in order to determine which people were Christian. Rendering the definition pointless.

“Claiming to be a golfer has a lot to do with whether or not people consider you a golfer by the common understanding of the word”. Oh really? I thought it was whether or not you play golf that determined if you were a golfer.

How do other people know whether or not you play golf?

You aren’t a thing only when you’re actively doing it.

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I’m going to ignore the first half of this post because you completely missed the point of the Ten Commandments example. I suspect you’re just actually that dense and aren’t being intentionally obtuse or feigning confusion.

You aren’t a thing only when you’re actively doing it

Of course not. But you’re definitely not a thing if you don’t do that thing at all.

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Of course not. But you’re definitely not a thing if you don’t do that thing at all.

Who the fuck was arguing that you are?

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