from the linked github thread:
Your project is in violation of the AGPL, and you have stated this is intentional and you have no plans to open source it. This is breaking the law, and as such I’ve began to help you with the first steps of re-open sourcing the plugin.
the project author (who gets paid for violating the AGPL via patreon) responds like a mediocre crypto grifter and insists their violation of the law be debated on the discord they control (where their shitty community can shout down the reporter):
While keeping code private doesn’t guarantee security, it does make it harder for bad actors to keep up with changes. You are welcome to debate this matter in the MakePlace discord: https://discord.com/invite/YuvcPzCuhq If you are able to convince the MakePlace community that keeping the code open-source is better, I will respect the wishes of the community.
aaaand the smackdown:
Respectfully, I won’t attempt to “debate” or “convince” anyone; I’m leaving this pull request and my fork here for others to see and use. It is not a matter of “better”; you are violating a software license and the law. It does not “make it harder” for anyone; Harmony hooking exists, IL modification exists, you can modify plugins from other plugins.
Am I the only one who hates that the place for “discussion” is Discord? I feel there are better options but I see it far too often these days… sigh
Discord is terrible. But it’s also easy to set up & easy wins out over good but annoying every time.
My biggest issue with Discord is that most discussion boards moved there and it’s ridiculously hard to find anything there. Plus it’s a privacy nightmare…
Yup. Discoverability in Discord servers is dire. The privacy issues are the bonus shit topping.
“How dare you not read through six months of discussion threads in order to find the last time your question was answered” is such a great way to welcome newbies to a project.
Discord is actually pretty good at the thing it was designed for: realtime comms between friends, both text & voice. It’s terrible at everything else & I wish people would stop using it, but it doesn’t seem like that’s going to happen any time soon.
Maybe unpopular take here, but I love discord as an excellent fit for specific use cases. I think plenty of groups that should be web forums use discord wrong, but for several of my favorite communities:
- They are better smaller, I don’t necessarily want or need them to be discoverable aside from word of mouth.
- They are better without search history, because the discussion is more ephemeral and personal instead of assuming that anyone is digging history in after hours
- Ad hoc voice chat rooms is a useful boon because of exactly 1 and 2.
- No ads. Yes I understand the privacy issues, but I would still prefer to have opt in subscriptions, no ads, and my chats are harvested than many alternatives for small communities that need to subsidize costs. (Again fediverse, if not ads, requires a buy in in terms of technical operational costs)
- Trivial to build specialized addons in the case your community has a need.
Good examples for me are: Friend of Friend Groups for organizing dinners or parties Online gaming communities Book clubs Co-worker chat alternative to slack
I’m a little surprised that people feel like Discord does a good job of (4) and (5). On (4), Discord’s ToS used to permit Discord to resell your personal data in bulk (and still might allow it; haven’t read the ToS in a while), all guilds are co-located in a single database, and rumor is that three-letter agencies are allowed to make relatively complex queries against that database. On (5), Discord is well-known to ban alternative clients, hacked clients, API clients, extensions, addons, and even chatbots, without any due process or recourse.
Like, yes, it’s a nice service, but is it really that much nicer than Mumble or IRC?
Fun detail, before discord there was other similar chat gaming software also running with full web browser capabilities. I did some digging at the time while I was using it and found it has using adobe flash which was several version out of date. (at the period where a lot of the exploits going round were flash based), stuff like this makes these kinds of chat apps a bit of a risk (teams/slack/skype etc similar (Edit: if I had said electron based apps here I would have looked a lot better than editing it later), I heard if you really are security concious/paranoid you use those apps only via their website versions (as most browsers have reasonable security nowadays)). Up till a year ago (before they put it behind a text file setting you have to enable) they even made it easy to open the development console which malicious people used to socially engineer people into compromising their account. The discord thing isn’t in the same risk category as the flash thing but still funny how high the shooting yourself in the foot risk was for the gamer app.
Unfortunately it’s the best popular one. Like I use Teams, Slack and Skype at work and oh god are they terrible, using those makes me long for Discord.
