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It’s also important to look at those positions.

Like, abortion.

To some people, aborting a 3 week old fetus is murder. Because their religion goes even further and says a guy jacking off is mass murder because that “seed” should only be used for heterosexual sex that would result in a child. Which makes them incredibly hypocritical, but they’re used to that

To others it’s just a clump of cells with zero brain activity growing in a women’s body and she decides if she wants to let it grow.

Both sides see the other as evil and obviously wrong.

Which is why it’s been a “wedge issue” for decades. Both parties can cater to corporations and the wealthy, and disagree on stuff like this that makes it so a large segment of the population never agrees with the other on who to vote for, and both parties can agree on stuff like how little taxes the wealthy have to pay while still presenting themselves as opposites.

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I don’t bother debating abortion because I will never get my “opponent” to view it how I view it. We can both see each other as completely in the wrong yet still be civil because neither of us are meaning to be malicious.

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Good, you can’t expect to have a conversation and change someone just like that. An adult that is religious and not extremely sheltered is probably a lost cause when it comes to understanding anything complex. The best you can really do is plant seeds, cause them to question, encourage the questioning and point out the clever tricks they’ve been taught to shut down questioning.

We need to learn to thrive despite the existence if stupid people, they will be born at a consistent rate for eternity. It’s our job to organize society in ways that don’t facilitate psychopaths mobilizing them into their idiot army (e.g. MAGA).

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You’re just proving my point. I’m on the pro-life side.

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