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Oklahoma here and am ready to get the fuck out

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I just escape that jail, moved to California, it’s actually shocking how much nicer it is.

There’s a streep aweaper that comes through the neighborhood once a week, so the streets are extremely clean, and like, the roads are actually well maintained. Just from the like, extremely surface level things.

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9 points

Transplant now residing in Oklahoma. I wish things would get better. It’s honestly almost an embarrassment to live here.

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Funny, I just moved to Oklahoma from Seattle and it’s been a nice change of pace.

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2 points

Haha actually wanting to move to the washington area.

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I wanted to in 2017 when I first went there, it just changed so much while I was there I really wish I could have bailed a year sooner.

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But why are all the blue states cold?

My husband and I thought about Arizona, or Virginia to get away from one of the highest CoL areas in the country… but eventually decided to focus on Connecticut instead, because we don’t want to be in a red state. With the exception of CA, none of the liberal states are sunny and all of them are expensive!

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8 points

Virginia isn’t really a red state.

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10 points

Because warm states were better for a slave-based agriculture economy and the liberal/conservative divide (whose relationship to political parties has changed over time) comes, in large part, from cultural differences that emerged before the Civil War.

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9 points

Because all of the red people are retirement age… 😂

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What are you talking about? Colorado has 300 days of sun a year, mild winters (depending on area. Mountain towns see the snow longer than Denver). Also Eastern WA and Oregon are hot as shit and sunny as well.

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Colorado is sunny! The warmest parts are also redder, so I think you’re on to something though.

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I was seriously considering a move from Nashville to Minneapolis last year, but after a lot of soul searching about it, I realized that the length of winter there would mean giving up most of my favorite hobbies, especially motorcycles, for a substantial portion of the year, and I’m not willing to do that.

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There are a good number of Okies on here and Mastodon. Welcome!

I actually think Oklahoma is a few years away from a blue tipping point, similar to the effect Denver has had on Colorado, where the urban majority has rapidly tipped things blue.

The awful superintendent is low key the best thing to ever happen to education here—there is a bubbling reaction even within the right to react to him and Stitt’s policies. And turning around education is the only thing needed to stop “blue” families from declining job offers here. Which would cascade the social landscape rapidly.

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I hope Stitt opens people’s eyes a bit. Guy is the sludge at the bottom of a sewer pipe.

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Thank you for the welcome :). I really hope you are right, but definitely hard to be optimistic.

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Rapid urban growth is always the antidote.

Our weak link is schools. Either people react to this bad superintendent, and schools finally improve—or some geniuses go the opposite way, and exploit this move to charter/private schools as opportunity to somehow make the first ultra-affordable private schools, which would relieve pressure from overcrowding and fix the public schools by proxy.

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5 points

Northern Michigan is about to have the same temp as Tennessee in the next decade. Blue states won’t be frigid for much longer and red states are about to swim in the humidity. Still, it varies quite heavily more by terrain than by lat/long.

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Its not too bad, its just the people and the weather. And the police. And the politics

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