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Are you saying abortion is not a Christian issue?

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I’m saying anyone claiming to be Christian and getting involved in politics is not a Christian.

Yes it’s true that the Bible says abortion is wrong. But that’s for the reader to apply to themselves, not forcibly apply to everyone else through politics.

It’s no different than Jainism with eating meat. They outright do not eat meat as a religious practice, which is fine. But imagine if they protested and took office to make it law that no one else can eat meat.

The Bible even says that people should not be getting involved in politics. So it’s a double whammy with forcing their beliefs onto other people through a means that God doesn’t approve.

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Where does the Bible say abortion is wrong?

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I’m also curious. The bible says life begins after birth, when God breathes life into the lungs. This is stated multiple times. You are not alive until you take your first breath.

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It doesn’t explicitly say “abortion is wrong”, but it is inferred from other things like the sacredness of life, etc.

Anyways, that wasn’t the point of my comment. The point of my comment was that it doesn’t matter what the Bible says in the context of abortion. It’s not ok to force your beliefs on to others.

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Where exactly does the Bible say that abortion is wrong? Have you read the Old Testament? There are so many dead babies there you could use them for the foundations of the tower of Babel. There’s even a method described for inducing abortion.

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Hold my grape juice while I come up with afactual refutations for every point you asserted because I fail to understand the difference between scholarship and wishful thinking. /s

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It doesn’t explicitly say that abortion is wrong. It says that life is sacred and that killing someone is wrong. The Mosaic Law even said that if a pregnant woman was harmed, even accidentally, and it caused the baby to miscarry then the offender should be put to death, a “life for a life”.

Have you read the Old Testament? There are so many dead babies there you could use them for the foundations of the tower of Babel. There’s even a method described for inducing abortion.

Yes, I have read it. Just because something is mentioned in the Bible, it isn’t an endorsement. There are many accounts of people doing terrible things, but that doesn’t mean we should all go and do those things. They are there either as a historical account or as an example of what not to do.

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Chances the “christians” that campaign for anti abortion didn’t even finished reading their bible , or borderline illiterate, are extremely very high.

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Spot on. There is no room for interpretation in the Bible for bigotry, violence, or hatred towards anyone.

The Bible does say “hate what is bad”, but never “hate WHO is bad”. In fact it says the opposite. The Bible literally says to “love your enemy” and “love your neighbour”. Anyone can be your neighbour.

But like you said, most people who are vocal in such things either haven’t read the Bible or don’t understand the words they read. Nothing is preventing any single one of those people from practicing what they believe. Other people being “ungodly” doesn’t impact themselves in any way.

Religion, unfortunately, is more often coopted as a tool for control than used for peace.

Edit: I like that I’m being downvoted for agreeing with dimlo, who is being upvoted. Feels like being on Reddit again.

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anyone claiming to be Christian and getting involved in politics is not a Christian.

Classic no true Scotsman.

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Hardly. Being a “true” Scotsman is subjective.

What I said is demonstrable.

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Tell that to all the politicians who are trying to mold the country to their Christian beliefs.

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They wouldn’t care what I say. It doesn’t suite their goals.

I’m not sure why this difficult to understand. These people are using the Bible as a hammer to force others to do what they want. If it wasn’t the Bible, of the Bible didn’t exist, it would just be something else.

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