are you genuinely politically impressed by this
at least our complaints are encouraging momentum rather than dusting off our hands and doing a smithers esque very good sir! because he pardoned people with fake charges that should’ve never existed that he and his VP gleefully enforced and implicitly defended for years and years
I completely disagree that your complaints spur a single thing. Every heard the phrase “you catch more flies with honey than vinegar”? Or how about if I get your thoughts on how to rear a child? Do you beat them, complain about their accomplishments constantly, or do you encourage and support them? Encouragement, support, and excitement do more to inspire change than any amount of complaints.
Incrementalism is the only bloodless way to achieve true progress. I embrace it, and celebrate these wins.
You catch more flies with honey than vinegar
That’s not always true. Like the literal case linked, politicians dragging their feet is one of the exceptions to the rule that positive reinforcement works better than loudly stating that you’re not satisfied and why you’re not satisfied.
Or how about if I get your thoughts on how to rear a child
Politicians aren’t children and shouldn’t be coddled as if they were.
Encouragement, support, and excitement do more to inspire change than any amount of complaints.
Again, politics is an exception. A politician who is informed of a problem or the inadequacy of their solutions will perform better than one who receives praise and adulation every time they affect a tiny fraction of the positive change within their power.
Incrementalism is
the only bloodlessa truly feckless way to achievetrueextremely limited progress
Fixed that for you. Here’s what Martin Luther King thought of your Incrementalism:
Haha, I do like the study on actual flies. That’s fun. I still think the analogy holds true for human behavior. I hope it should be obvious I’m not condoning never taking anyone to task when it’s deserved, politician or otherwise. I think making it the core of your political movement is complete folly though.
I obviously recognize that politicians are not children. That’s not how analogies work. I also think embracing celebration of wins instead of immediately scolding for not going far enough is not “coddling”, either in the case of children or politicians. I think viewing it as such is part of the problem.
I disagree that MLK Jr was referring to Incrementalism explicitly there, but regardless, I’m not a big fan of pulling out political “saints” to make a point. If you think my underlying point is that we should embrace tradition and stability over all progress, I think that’s an unfair assumption based on what I’ve written here. But do I want my country and society to improve without us all killing each other or breaking every rule that gets in the way of our view? Yeah, I think that’s true for me. And I don’t see anything that MLK advocated for, in ends or means, that disagreed with that notion.
So yeah, I want congress to legalize weed. Hell, I smoke daily and have bought my weed illegally in sketchy parking lots. But I’m going to celebrate this, because some good people who did nothing wrong get to celebrate Christmas at home.
“Politically impressed”? Go away.
Momentum is incremental progress towards a goal, this is that. You’ve said nothing convincing to a rational adult. We don’t put flags on our trucks that show him riding a dinosaur with his shirt off, we don’t agree with everything, but it’s general progress and we accept that. We accept AND we push for more.
Grow up.
Thanks! That’s pretty much my entire feelings about the DNC. I live in the most liberal county in America. Obviously I’m not satisfied with federal laws. But whining about Biden while an autocrat is on the doorstep of the WH is pathetic. Wannabe progressive losers on the Internet gaslit by Russian, Chinese and right wing propaganda. A fucking thread about releasing marijuana convictions flooded with Biden is basically the alt right. We have fought for this inch for DECADES.
Fuck off Lemmy. Your holier than thou bullshit is sad and transparent. You’re thinking no more critically or analytically than on Reddit.
For what it’s worth, on Lemmy you have upvotes and the people making these negative comments mostly do not.
I think most people agree with you, we’re just not the ones that repeat it.
Anyway, good on you.
