A federal judge says that DeSantis was spreading lies when he called gender-affirming care “mutilation.”

This year has been all downhill for Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis. His presidential aspirations are going up in smoke thanks to his complete lack of charisma and general campaign incompetence. His losing war against Disney is costing Florida taxpayers millions of dollars. Now a federal court all but called DeSantis a liar for the way he justified his ban on medical care for trans youth.

DeSantis repeatedly claimed that the law was necessary to prevent youth from being “mutilated.” In just one example, he went after one reporter who questioned him about it when he signed the bill last May.

“And when you talk to people and I know, like people in your industry will dress it up with a euphemism, and they’ll say it’s health care to cut off the private parts of a 14 or 15 year old,” DeSantis said. “That is not health care. That is mutilation.”

Tell that to U.S. District Judge Robert Hinkle.

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I’m not a fan of people throwing hurtful incendiary statements into conversations around healthcare, whether it be you or DeSantis.

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Stop listening to sycophants to get your information, because it’s almost always going to be wrong.

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No one is cutting kids’ dicks off. Those are a fantasy made up to get people to hate trans people.

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I wish people weren’t down voting you for asking a simple question.

It’s definitely mutilation if that happened, but doctors aren’t allowed to perform those surgeries on minors. So the premise is false, and DeSantis is just trying to stir the pot.

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Knee jerk reactions are something I’ve come to expect from the Internet these days. I’m not bothered by it, and Internet points don’t have value so nothing is lost by it either.

DeSantis seems like a fairly horrible person, but that also doesn’t mean everyone should blindly dismiss anything he says, which is why I ask.

I wish I was all knowing, but I keep letting myself down on that front.

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theyre exaggerating in order to take control of everyone, like the assholes always do.

no bottom surgery or full on hrt is happening to youth, what is meant by affirming care is puberty blockers (completely reversible), and therapy to help youth sort out this in their head. i would kill to not have to go through the wrong puberty, and i wish to protect trans children from having to meet the same fate as me.

and repeating yet again from the other commenter, no, children are not getting bottom surgery. stop falling for their propaganda and listen to the trans people preaching our life experiences on deaf ears

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First off, that doesn’t happen. Ever. (Surgeries do happen at that age, especially mastectomies, but not for cosmetic reasons)

Second of all, where is your outrage for all the boob jobs and other cosmetic surgeries that children under 18 get every year? There are more of those surgeries for teens under 18 than there are for trans people over the age of 18.

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Your problem is that you start from the presumption that anyone is “cutting dicks off” at that age.

Psychologists have ways to tell if a child is faking their body dysmorphia (ie just sees it “as the cool trend”) - and, news flash; almost literally no one wants to change their body for “trendy” reasons.

So, if they do meet the criteria, they go on hormone blockers. This just delays puberty, and as soon as they stop taking them, puberty picks up where it left off.

So if they later decide this was all a mistake, they have until they’re an adult to make their decision.

Again: no one is mutilating any children. It is a strawman argument dreamed up by culture-war pedaling fascists who want to be able to point at the fake victories they won “for you” so they can get your vote and remain in power and accomplish their real goals like eventually outlawing all trans people, rounding up all immigrants, atheists, etc in their march to turn America into a theocratic white Christian ethnostate.

I mean they’re already quoting Hitler, bro. Wake the fuck up.

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You’re fantasizing about a strawman. You’ve never actually spoken to a trans person.

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The point is that wasn’t actually happening to children, they made it up out of thin air as a pretext to attack all healthcare for trans children, and now nationwide are moving on to making healthcare for trans adults (the adult care can include surgery) illegal as well. These laws including Florida’s are opposed by the American Academy of Pediatrics, the American Psychological Association, and many other medical organizations. These laws are causing great harm to both children and adults across the country, all based on lies and half truths as an excuse to prevent doctors and patients from making their own healthcare decisions, which seems to be the Republican MO.

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That just doesn’t happen.

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I hope you are not being obtuse. No children are having such surgeries. This is a lie that is presented as fact to justify these hateful pieces of legislation. Children typically only socially transition, as in new name, hairstyle, clothes, etc. There is absolutely no mutilation or irreversible changes being made to these kids.

I think this bears repeating: No children are having any sort of gender affirming surgeries. These are lies that are used by hateful people to attack people like me. Please do not believe these lies. Rather, talk to a trans person. Hear their story. We just want to live our lives in peace.

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