Dave Chappelle fills Netflix special with jokes about trans and disabled people(www.independent.co.uk)

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Dave Chappelle has released a new Netflix special, The Dreamer, which is full of jokes about the trans community and disabled people.

“I love punching down!” he tells the audience, in a one-hour show that landed on the streaming service today (31 December).

It’s his seventh special for Netflix and comes two years after his last one, the highly controversial release The Closer.

That programme was criticised for its relentless jokes about the trans community, and Chappelle revisits the topic in his new show.

He tells jokes about trans women in prison, and about trans people “pretending” to be somebody they are not.

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Waluigis_Talking_Buttplug@lemmy.world

7 points

9 months ago

Yeah, I said this when they first started going after him over his material and he just doubled down. I got banned from a sub reddit for suggesting that the louder people complain, the more money it makes him. I said it’s what he wants, is people to continue to screech about it. Apparently saying that people who write these articles and talk about it makes him money is transphobic. (You don’t have to talk about it, btw. You can say his material is wrong and then just ignore him forever after that. The more you engage, the more visibility he gets)

I didn’t even know he had a new special until this article, he’s getting a shitload of free advertising from this.

I personally had to turn the special off, not because I found it offensive, but that it just wasnt funny. It felt forced and like he’s just trying to be as ridiculously out there as possible with his trans jokes. It’s very obvious he’s just trying to press people’s buttons.

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fosforus@sopuli.xyz

-8 points

9 months ago

Perhaps that’s what employs trans people? Faking outrage for advertising purposes.

I don’t actually think that’s how it is, but it would probably work.

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phillaholic@lemm.ee

0 points

9 months ago

Respectfully I disagree. He’s going to make money regardless. If he wants to make this his legacy let him. Push back on transphobic shit. Otherwise it’s being normalized.

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Waluigis_Talking_Buttplug@lemmy.world

3 points

9 months ago

To counter, the argument that many of these people are making is how the trans community attacks them online, and by attacking them on line you’re just giving them a platform and making them go “SEE!! I’m the victim”

The best way to push back is to not platform it. When you put a spotlight on it, you make them feel justified, and that normalizes it WAY more.

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phillaholic@lemm.ee

0 points

9 months ago

Netflix is platforming it. Internet comments are a drop in the bucket in comparison.

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Waluigis_Talking_Buttplug@lemmy.world

1 point

9 months ago

I meant platform as in soapbox, not as in hosting platform.

All I’m saying, and I’m not going to continue after this because I feel like my point had been made already, is that he WANTS people to be UPSET because it makes him MONEY. Your outrage is an income. You being upset and trying to find a way to justify it makes him richer and makes him continue to make this type of content. You being outraged and talking about it gives him ammunition for his “hurr durr I won’t be silenced” narrative.

Again, you can have an opinion, but HE WANTS YOU TO BE UPSET AND PAY ATTENTION TO HIM. You’re actively doing what he wants. And it’s making him money.

You being upset allows him to say “See look the LGBT community hates me over jokes look they want to silence people who don’t agree with them look how sensitive they are”. If there wasn’t outrage, it would fall on deaf ears and he’d look extra dumb to the people who are into his material, but because there is outrage it “proves” his point to the target audience. By being upset, you hand him his fucking soapbox in the shape of a 20 million dollar microphone.

Again, yes you have a right to be upset and you have a right to disavow him, but by doing so consistently and each time he says something, you just makes him more money. Not sure how much more I can lay this out. You CAN call him out for transphobic jokes, you CAN but you need to weigh if you SHOULD. If we all collectively just ignore him and not give him fuel for his cheap, easy to make, and cash geberating content, then he’d either have to make real jokes or fade into obscurity. You are keeping him out of obscurity. You’re playing into his game exactly as he wants, and he’s winning.

I never would have known he had a new special if it wasn’t for all the outrage

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phillaholic@lemm.ee

2 points

9 months ago

I’m challenging the idea that it’s the outrage making him the money. Netflix signed him before most of it. People buying tickets just to own the libs pale in comparison. Basically I don’t think it matters much how much we say, ergo I’d rather he be constantly called out for being transphobic than let it become normal to be transphobic. Actually I’d rather him make a Billion Dollars than transphobia become normal and acceptable, so maybe we just have different root goals.

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