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Most people are tech illiterate. Ask them anything but to use a pre installed system or pop in a CD that was given to them (No they can’t burn one themselves) and they’ll fail

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With all the UI changes on every version in the last few years that simply isn’t true. Windows is becoming harder and harder to use even if you know what you are doing, much less if you don’t know half the computer related terminology.

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Actually, not really. It’s becoming more like what a smart device would look/feel, which is what most people are accustomed to anyway by now. Sure, options and settings get removed left and right, but that is not a concern for your every day Joe. They just need something to do their taxes in or watch a movie or play a few dumb clips on YT, that’s it. Oh and of course it comes preinstalled with the computer, so they can do all that out of the box, great!

You ask any person that uses MS Office whether they like the pre-2007 menu layout (1997-2003) of Office or the new (post-2007) menu layout, you’ll always get the same answer, the post-2007 is better. Why? I really have no idea, but they say it’s better. Maybe it’s the thing with the icon buttons, or just having a ribbon with the most used tools, IDK. My point is, LibreOffice uses the pre-2007 classical layout. For most people, this is confusing. I find it simple and elegant, the way a GUI text/spreadsheet editor should look and feel. But, than again, I’m with computers since I was a kid, so drop down menus are not a new thing for me. People rarely use any menu that’s not a full screen one (or at least one that’s big enough to take away at least half the screen). Why? IDK, but I think smart devices are to blame for that.

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options and settings get removed left and right,

That is bad but what bothers me more is that they get moved every time they publish a new version and for no real reason considering the average person won’t access them anyway.

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Unfortunately, Windows becoming better and better. You can literally run Linux while running Windows (that’s why coders still use Windows) and now you can even remove pre installed bloatware. Can you imagine? They even copy KDE look!

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Are you talking about WSL!? WSL is not even close to actual Linux. Additionally, if I need to run Linux while using Windows, I will be using a VM like a seasoned professional, not the Windows equivalent of Wine in 2008.

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26 points

I can’t imagine walking around and just assuming everything is a magic black box and not have the slightest curiosity about how something works.

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Believe it or not, not everyone is intersted in tech. Most people just live out their lives oblivious to how stuff works.

Like me for example, I have almost 0 interest in medicine. The human body is not exactly a black box to me, but I don’t usually remember deseases names and stuff like that, even though some people remember all those things without putting too much effort into it.

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Medical stuff is not comparable to OS that you use on a daily basis. Everything just boils down that Windows was pre installed on such a huge amount of machines that “you have to be tech savvy” or whatever to use Linux. And the fact that no one wants to install anything that wasn’t installed the first time, makes it that much harder to switch to Linux. But I believe that we all are slowly spreading the word of Linux more and more with each year. We definitely will have a year of Linux for sure (eventually).

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Except for the fact, that you do that to plenty of other disciplines of life. It is simply that some people need a computer to work, they don’t need one as a hobby. They don’t want to “learn a new thing” they want their machine to output some calculations in excel. Same as you don’t learn woodworking when ordering a table from Ikea, or learning medicine when going to a checkup.

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Same as you don’t learn woodworking when ordering a table from Ikea, or learning medicine when going to a checkup.

Maybe I’m different than most, but I DO wonder how that table is made, and I do try to educate myself on how the medicines I take actually work. There’s been times I’ve wasted almost an entire day binging Wikipedia.

I’m not saying I have in depth knowledge of fields outside my own, but I do make an attempt. Like, I’m not a gearhead at all, and I only care about cars being able to take me to work and back. But I do know how internal combustion works, and I have a general understanding of the components of an engine.

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Imagine having a CD in 2024 /s

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Until I saw the /s I felt extremely old

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Yeah, it’s a DVD now, right?

… Right?

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Hell, I still burn stuff to DVDs 🤷.

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No, that’s ChromeOS. Windows still assumes some knowledge that you may take for granted, but someone who’s never used a computer before might not know.

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Not gonna lie I have no fucking clue what ChromeOS is

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It’s the OS on Chromebooks

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The point is that this is Linux community and majority understand that there is basically no reason in using Windows. But there are proprietary exceptions like games and stuff. I don’t have Windows on my machine for years and I’m perfectly fine without it.

I’m not talking about “most people”, because they all have been brainwashed by Microsoft and will refuse in adopting anything different than Windows. It comes pre installed basically everywhere.

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Stop enabling normies, make them become tech literate or send them back to the stone-age (preferable).

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That’s not enabling, it’s just how people are… most people anyway. They won’t become tech literate of you send them to computer classes or tell them they need to learn stuff. Most people are lazy when it comes to using their brain. It’s just how things are 🤷.

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Personally I’m not tech illiterate; I’m just too lazy to reboot every time I want to hop on the decks and do some DJing or music production. Or play one of the few games that won’t run on Linux. Or watch something in HDR.

I wish there was a way to instantly jump back and forth between OSes with a key combo, without having to resort to any sort of VM fuckery. Like how for a brief moment in the 90s you could buy an expansion card for your Mac that was an entire Windows PC on a single board. You do exactly what I described: instantly go back and forth between Mac and PC without having to close any programs. We should find a way to make that a thing again.

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Regarding DJing, there is support now for quite a few MIDI DJ controllers in Linux, you should look and see if yours is supported 😉.

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Doubtful. It hasn’t received neither a driver nor a firmware update since 2015, and new DJ hardware is expensive, so…

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The easy solution for that is a kvm switch. You have two pcs, and switch between them with a button press, keeping the same mouse, keyboard and monitor.

Best use is for personal PC and work laptop, but if you specifically want to switch between linux and windows pcs, then it should be fine if you use that.

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Yeah but I don’t want two PCs. The PC room gets hot enough as-is. I have to turn off the heat when doing a resource-intensive task to keep the room from heating up to 80°F! In January!

Not to mention the costs. Upfront and the increased power bill. No way am I buying a second 4090 and having one PC using up 150w+ sitting idle while I’m using the other one. Out of my budget.

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