New ā€˜Star Trekā€™ In The Works With ā€˜Andorā€™ Director Toby Haynes On Board

https://deadline.com/2024/01/andor-toby-haynes-star-trek-movie-seth-grahame-smith-writing-1235712646/

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Basically where Iā€™m also at.

Also, as someone noted in a Discord chat about it, ā€œdecades beforeā€ only gives you a small window between the start of the Kelvin universe and Trek '09, otherwise too far back and youā€™re making a Prime Timeline movie. So thatā€™ll be interesting to see what they plan.

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only gives you a small window between the start of the Kelvin universe and Trek '09,

I meanā€¦we could all pretend the Kelvin timeline doesnā€™t existā€¦

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I think the kelvin timeline is great for the sole fact that it is what peaked my interest in trek. I recently just finished watching everything trek and it was because the 09 movie was cool and got me to start watching the different tv series.

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@M500 @cm0002 I think thatā€™s amazing and wonderful. Any Star Trek vehicle from any point can be anyoneā€™s gateway. And thatā€™s why itā€™s still here. Rock on you!

Watching squabbles over this stuff is depressing. I have specific Trek Iā€™ll avoid, but thatā€™s me, and bringing it up over and over in every conversation is lame.

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At this point the Kelvin timeline is just a handwavey excuse for recasting Kirk and crew of TOS and following movies. And a prequel to Kelvin is an excuse to recast those parts with younger actors.

Personally, I could care less about new movies featuring the TOS characters. Star trek evolved past them 30 years ago, I wish Hollywood would realise that.

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Kelvin broke the seal on recasting, as it were.

If Discovery or SNW had been the first to recast Kirk, there would have been a revolt, but since Kelvin got us used to the idea people just kind of accept it.

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Yeah, it was Pandoraā€™s recasting, and now all the Kirks and Spocks are loose on the world.

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I would take that with a grain of salt - itā€™s a general-purpose Hollywood outlet reporting what their sources told them, so there could be room for inaccuracies.

They could also follow Simon Peggā€™s contention that the Kelvin and Prime timelines could be different at any point in history (which I support).

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@ValueSubtracted @startrek Well like we said, all news about a Star Trek film comes with lots of salt onboard šŸ˜‚

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There are actually differences in the Prime and Kelvin timelines that happened before Neroā€™s incursion. For instance, Kirkā€™s date of birth is off by several months. They tried to justify that afterwards by saying something about the event sending shockwaves through time to change things before it even happened or something like that. The real reason probably lies in that interview where JJ Abrams admitted he never liked Star Trek, but you could argue that the removal of various down-stream time travel events, like the events of ā€œThe City on the Edge of Foreverā€ likely not happening in the modified timeline, could actually cause retroactive changes to the timeline.

But anyway, the Kelvin timeline already diverges before the Kelvin-Narada thing, because reasons.

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Another change is Enterprise being built on earth instead of in orbit.

Iā€™m almost entirely sure that choice was because JJ Abrams wanted that visual in his movie. Justifications to Trek nerds were an afterthought.

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@setsneedtofeed @startrek Which never made any sense in any timeline.

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