No combined notification+ringer volume control? No non-dismissable notifications? No disabling of the bottom search bar? fair point this is launcher issue What the fuck is that shit?!

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What are non-dismissable notifications? Or more specifically, why would I want those?

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Persistent notification for some ongoing processes, such as downloads, torrenting clients, VPN services, all sorts of synchronisation, weather, DND, bedtime mode, battery monitors etc.

I in particular liked to use it with Tasks.org client for non-dismissable reminders, so that they stayed in the notifications bar until I mark them done. This way I would never accidentally dismiss a reminder for a chore until I specifically completed it.

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The app should resend reminders until it’s completed. This doesn’t seem like a big issue.

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I in particular liked to use it with Tasks.org client for non-dismissable reminders, so that they stayed in the notifications bar until I mark them done. This way I would never accidentally dismiss a reminder for a chore until I specifically completed it.

This right here. Exact same use case.

What I’ve started doing is setting them to re-trigger at random if they’ve been swiped away. At least then if I accidentally dismiss it, it’ll come back in a little while.

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Well, that’s some solution, thanks . Guess I will do that as well

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It was a way for apps to run without risk of being killed while letting the user easily see that the app was running.

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That sounds like a weird way to get around battery optimizations without having to ask the user to explicitly do that for this app? I mean there is a mechanic for that already via disabling battery optimizations, far as I understand it.

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Showing a notification doesn’t “evade” battery optimization - as battery optimization is completely independent of Android’s memory management.

Showing a notification allows Android’s memory management to better assess what apps to kill using a weights system, based on whether they are in the foreground or background, if any of the app’s overlays/notifications are visible to the user, and exactly how visible they are.

Battery optimization will kill any non-system app based on how frequently it is used, dependent on its overall background CPU usage, regardless of whether the app is showing a notification or not.

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Exactly, it was a crappy stop gap solution.

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I hated apps that did that. Never really worked anyway. Do your app properly for God’s sake!

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