Bananas are ridiculously cheap even up here in Canada, and they aren’t grown anywhere near here. Yet a banana can grow, be harvested, be shipped, be stocked, and then be purchased by me for less than it’d cost to mail a letter across town. (Well, if I could buy a single banana maybe…or maybe that’s not the best comparison, but I think you get my point)

Along the banana’s journey, the farmer, the harvester, the shipper, the grocer, the clerk, and the cashier all (presumably) get paid. Yet a single banana is mere cents. If you didn’t know any better, you might think a single banana should cost $10!

I’m presuming that this is because of some sort of exploitation somewhere down the line, or possibly loss-leading on the grocery store’s side of things.

I’m wondering what other products like bananas are a lot cheaper than they “should” be (e.g., based on how far they have to travel, or how difficult they are to produce, or how much money we’re saving “unethically”).

I’ve heard that this applies to coffee and chocolate to varying extents, but I’m not certain.

Anyone know any others?

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Wait you’re saying it’s better to be genetically experimented on, caged, forced to breed, and be killed in your early adulthood than not have children?

That’s it’s actually more ethical to make a creature who you later kill for your own pleasure than not to do that? because the alternative is only wild cows and cowlike creatures existing?

They’re living beings, not museum exhibits ffs. Species don’t have preferences, individuals do.

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they didn’t say any of what you said.

you are arguing with a strawman.

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That’s what a farm is. They’re saying we should keep farming them or else they would go extinct and that would be worse than continuing to farm them.

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they did not say what you said. you are putting words in their mouth.

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Point out the wild bovine to me bruh, they don’t exist, they’re one of the many species dépendant upon humans for their survival.

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Ummm. Are you serious?

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Very frustrating to argue with people who claim to have no concern for living creatures when in fact they probably love their dog or cat and would find it just as hard as anyone else to watch a video of what goes on in factory farms. Food choices are such a fundamental part of human culture that most people just cannot stand having them questioned, it’s as if you are questioning their religion. Alas.

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this reads like an appeal to ridicule, not a rebuttal

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>it’s actually more ethical to make a creature who you later kill for your own pleasure

no one is doing that

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What is meat farming? in most of the world at this point in time it’s much more efficient to eat plants. Nobody with access to a supermarket is eating only what meat they might need to survive with no alternatives, you eat it for pleasure. For this pleasure someone must die, therefore you kill them for pleasure.

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if you are buying food in a supermarket your not killing anything except maybe lobsters

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you literally don’t know what anyone else needs. you can’t dictate the diet that is right for them.

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>it’s better to… breed…than not have children?

the highest benefit to any organism is to pass it’s genetic material to another generation.

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benefit for whom?

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for the DNA

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