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Thereā€™s Two Main Choices:

Packagesā€¦

  1. Pacman-based - Arch, Arco, Endeavour
  2. RPM-based - Fedora, SuSE
  3. Aptitude-based - Ubuntu, Debian

Choose Pacman for rolling release, bleeding edge. Pick aptitude for servers and pick RPM if you want something that ā€˜just worksā€™.

Desktopā€¦

  1. Full DE - Gnome, KDE
  2. Window Manager - Awesome, i3

High end machines with lots of fancy features and ease of use pick a full DE. WM is good for speed and low-end hardware but harder to use.

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Disagree on picking RPM distros for an absolute beginner (this is what the image is about at least). SUSE maybe but you donā€™t want a newbie having to deal with US patent bullshit and especially SELinux. Similarly, no newbie will ever pic a barebones WM as a first time user.

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I have used Fedora for nearly all the time Iā€™ve daily driven Linux, and havenā€™t encountered any problem that a newbie would encounter and couldnā€™t overcome, excluding distro-agnostic stuff. Yeah, the h264 shit sucks, but if you use flatpaks you shouldnā€™t have to worry about it. And if you ever have to face SELinux, then youā€™re probably doing something thatā€™s beyond beginner level.

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I dunno, I picked RedHat 5.2 as a complete beginner along with fvwm95 and afterstep, and that worked out okay. Of course, that was 25 years ago.

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25 years ago the viability of options were slightly more prescriptive

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Same. I remember getting interested in Linux in like 1997 or so, and it seemed like RedHat was preferred for newbies.

Of course, what were the alternatives then? It was basically Slackware (or Suse), Debian, and RedHat (or Caldera). There was no RHEL or Canonical or SElinux back then. It was a different time.

Hell one of the language packs for installing RedHat was ā€œRedneckā€. It was a gimmick to demonstrate localization options.

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Itā€™s a very rough guide I threw together. Thereā€™s all sorts of wedge cases you could use to argue against it. E.g. you could use RPMs on slack Linux. Not exactly user friendly.

Bit on the whole fedora or Suse do the job.

Also desktops are better for newbies. I thought Iā€™d mentioned that but yeah I agree deffo better for newbies while WM managers more for tinkerers/power users.

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I started on CentOS and donā€™t remember any issues but that was a long time ago. I flirted with Suse, Ubuntu, and Arch when RH started being a super dick. I finally settled on Rocky, rpm is the devil I know.

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Apt, not Aptitude. Aptitude is just one of many front ends for Apt. I usually go for Synaptic.

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Started using Debian because I only used it for servers to begin with. Learned APT and never dared to learn anything else. So now I just stick with any distro using APT and a DE I like.

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So for gamingā€¦ Pacman? I thought mint and kubuntu use aptitude, and was under the impression those are two of the better gaming distros.

I hate windows, but am sick of trying Linux every 5-6 years and finding out that I cannot get half the games I play to work. Admittedly, with you guys I might not be going it alone this timeā€¦

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Debian-based systems (including Ubuntu and its forks such as Mint) uses dpkg and APT (APT does all the communicating with repositories, dependency managment etc, dpkg actually installs and removes packages.) Aptitude is a TUI front-end for APT that gives you a menu-based system in the terminal. Synaptic (not to be confused with the trackpad driver) is a GUI front-end for APT.

I game on Linux Mint. Now it might be my tendency to play single player and/or cooperative multiplayer (think Stardew Valley or Unrailed!) games often made by smaller studios and indie developers as most of the AAA space has otherwise offended me, butā€¦I donā€™t really have a problem. The vast majority of things just install and run from Steam.

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The package manager is usually tied to the distro, but the point above is to let the package manager inform your distro choice.

Youā€™ll notice a running theme in my lecture here is ā€œchoice.ā€ You can switch Desktop Environment and other stuff on just about any distro and make it feel like yours. Switching package managers isnā€™t recommended though! šŸ˜…

So for instance, Arch (btw lol), or Manjaro, or Endeavour use Pacman.

Iā€™ve switched to Endeavour recently which is essentially ā€œUser-friendly Arch-basedā€ with an installer and stuff, and itā€™s absolutely lovely for games. My old 960M laptop runs plenty of stuff great. :D

On my main rig Iā€™ve used OpenSUSE Tumbleweed for years, which is also a rolling release (constantly updated) distro that technically uses RPMs, but uses its own package manager called Zypper, which I find mostly user friendly. Packages are also a bit more thoroughly tested.

Both use KDE Plasma desktop environment and itā€™s gorgeous.

Alternatively, especially for laptops with hybrid Nvidia graphics, POP!_OS is alright if youā€™re okay with GNOME desktop environment. (You can always change, but itā€™s geared toward GNOME). It used Aptitude, and the updates trail behind a bit, but generally thatā€™s supposed to make a more stable system.

(Note that when I say ā€œlags behindā€, latest security fixes tend to be backported, but you wonā€™t see fancy new shiny features as fast.)

For gaming specifically though:

Win10 is gonna be my last Windows. 11 is invasive and opinionated, and 12 is gonna have a forced Ai fetish. Gross.

Good news: Steam games work wonderfully. Thanks to advances with Proton and all their support for the SteamDeck (which runs Linux btw!)

For other platforms, look into Heroic Launcher, which takes a lot of the headache out of managing stuff like GOG games. :)

With rolling releases you usually want to update cautiously and check news updates and stuff, because newer versions arenā€™t as thoroughly tested and some stuff might breakā€¦but you get new features faster so thatā€™s fun.

That being said: If youā€™re willing to learn a little as you go, OpenSUSE Tumbleweed is a big win in my book for getting the latest fun stuff while still being stable! Itā€™s also thoroughly security-minded.

And by default, it includes ā€œSnapperā€ set up for you, so you can just roll the system back to a working version in the rare case something goes wrong. You can install snapper on any distro, but it comes pre-configured and ready to go, as long as you use the default ā€œBTRFSā€ file system.

I wonā€™t get into filesystems because hoo boiā€¦but TL;DR: BTRFS allows ā€œsnapshotsā€ and rollbacks that donā€™t require literally doubling your disk space for rolling back, so itā€™s a great safety net.

That being said: ALWAYS have more than one backup, in multiple locations, of anything you find important!

Good luck and have fun. I will say, Endeavour, OpenSUSE, and Pop_OS all have great communities that are eager to help if youā€™re eager to learn! :)

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Iā€™d say, just use Ubuntu if gaming is your main concern.

Imo the main problem for games are 1. hardware drivers (afaik only if you have brand new hardware), 2. game launchers (fuck those fucking game launchers, fuck; except steam) and 3. anti- cheat software.

Otherwise gaming is really good under Linux nowadays.

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Steam on linux has tons of games. But not all of them (Baulderā€™s Gate 3.)

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Steam on linux has tons of games. But not all of them (Baulderā€™s Gate 3.)

I play Baldurā€™s Gate 3 on my Fedora KDE Linux system just fine.

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BG3 running fine on my Ubuntu box.

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Most new Linux users if not all, are unable to make an educated decision on package management. The UI that they think they will like better would be more important.

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