Careful, the Joe haters really don’t want to listen right now with the current state of Gaza.
I’m a Joe hater, and a voter of Joe Biden, and I agree with @mozz@mbin.grits.dev . I plan to vote for Joe Biden, but campaign against AIPAC-endorsed candidates in favor of democratic candidates willing to be critical about Israel without stepping over the line like “From the river to the sea” chant. Oct 7 happened, and abuses from Israel settlers happened.
And the overwhelming majority of those kids have up to this point, never given two shits about what has been going on over there before this last year.
Bandwagoning political idealism is cringy as fuck not to mention dangerous.
Critism of US policy towards Israel has been a growing with the left for years. Now, a major change in the facts on the ground have made it a much more salient issue.
The situation with Palestine and Israel is shit and has been shit for a long time now. Hamas are a bunch of bastards that are standing up against another bunch of bastards. They both suck and neither Hamas nor Israel should be shown any support at all. It’s like when the USSR fought the Nazis in WW2, neither option there was good, and just because the Nazis were slightly worse doesn’t mean the USSR deserved support.
That said while Hamas absolutely doesn’t deserve any support, Palestine and the Palestinian people absolutely do, and the way they’ve been treated by Israel even before the current situation is terrible. The current situation is so much worse though, with Israel just going full mask off genocide now.
Even if the US isn’t going to get involved in that conflict directly the least we could have done is just not support Israel, don’t provide them with weapons, shut the fuck up when other countries start accusing them of war crimes and genocide. Instead we’re doing the exact opposite, sending weapons to Israel and using our international clout to shield them.
Ya it’s way better to stay ignorant to the shitty stuff your country does in the world than gain awareness of new issues. It’s cool to support a genocide.
Yeah, there a huge difference when kids cherry pick the issues they want to be upset about and then use those issues as an excuse to not vote.
I never said if ignorance is better. I said they don’t give a shit until it’s cool to be seen giving a shit. Maybe they should try always giving a shit. I’d bet we’d be a lot better of if these idealists worked 24/7. Instead of every four years.
I mean, if it leads to the US rethinking its policy of “Israel can kill as many children as it wants and it’s all good,” I’ll allow it.
