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These people sound like exact copies of the people saying voting in 2000 didn’t matter, and that turned out to be the most politically consequential of my lifetime. Gore was imperfect as they all are, but holy fuck did Dubya fuck up literally everything he touched.

Among many, many, many things, Dubya started forever wars killing untold hundreds of thousands of people. He accelerated oil and gas production, absolutely setting the Climate Change world on a pace for disaster. He seated Alito, unquestionably the biggest monster currently on the Supreme Court. And he passed a monster tax cut for the rich that set us on this path of unrestrained deficit spending.

And that’s just the headlines. Remember when he tried to put his personal lawyer on the Supreme Court? lol

Gen X already tried this 25 years ago and it fucked the world up so badly that we need to be saved by the future generations. Imagine not learning that lesson and doing it again.

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I always wonder how Gore might have acted in response to 9/11.

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Probably a similar initial response, but no Iraq War two years later. Which would make a… massive (and positive, in case that wasn’t clear) change in the direction and concerns of American foreign policy.

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He wouldn’t have suspended civil rights, permitted torture and made a mockery of the rule of law.

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Based on after-the-fact reports, it may never have happened.

Maybe that’s just exposure to all the conspiracy theories, though, I dunno if he would have acted any differently than Bush did to the intelligence reports.

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After 9/11, the U.S. Got Almost Everything Wrong

It would have been very different.

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They had intelligence that terrorists from Al-Queda were training and planning for an attack, hijacking commercial planes.

Bush et al did next to nothing with that intel, at best.

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It’s questionable if it’d have even happened had gore been at the desk, y’know, because he’d have probably actually read the imminent attack report about the plot before it happened.

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True dat. He wasn’t part of the cabal. That’s also why he wasn’t elected, in spite of winning. Just like Hillary.

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53 points

W was catastrophic. Honestly him and Reagan are the cause of most of our issues.

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40 points

Nixon deserves a mention there too.

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Nixon is inadvertently responsible for the creation of the right wing media circus which I would argue is fully responsible for W and trump.

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If you’re going to mention Nixon, then you have to include Andrew Johnson.

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2 points

Nixon had some redeeming qualities, like enacting the EPA and Clear Water/Air acts

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True. I only forget about him because his damage got limited by him getting fired

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Don’t forget in his first week or so he passed No Child Left Behind, which has irreparably damaged the education of children in this country.

https://www.epi.org/publication/what_went_wrong_with_no_child_left_behind/

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Man, what I would do to have an unabashed giant nerd for president. I forget what people’s issue with Gore even was.

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Al Gore won the popular vote, but there was some sketchiness down in Florida. During a recount, Roger Stone rallied the troops (Brooks Brothers riot) which caused the counting to be stopped, due to threats of violence. Setting up the supreme Court to decide Bush won Florida.

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During a recount, Roger Stone rallied the troops (Brooks Brothers riot) which caused the counting to be stopped, due to threats of violence.

In other words, the 2000 coup succeeded.

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Damn that sounds really really familiar. Almost like it happened just a couple years ago.

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I, personally sat out that election because I didn’t like Al’s wife, Tipper Gore. She led the charge in a bunch of manufactured outrage about obscenity in music. I was also a jaded, cynical gen-xer who’d been hearing the importance of voting as long as I could remember, but every election was just choosing between a douchbag and a turd sandwich.

Looking back on everything that happened after that election, it’s insane to imagine how different things would be now if Gore had been in office instead of the criminal enterprise that we ended up with.

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Though the Bush presidency lead to Cheney’s wife taking up that mantle anyways.

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Gore was the watershed moment of the white left deciding no progress is allowed to happen unless it’s by their hands and they get all the credit.

Nader fired up his campaign in swing states as an act of retaliation against Gore posing himself as the climate candidate.

That’s it.

The Greens had a meltdown that the thing that usually happens to third parties in this country, that is having their platforms become the mainstream if they make enough noise, was happening to them, and they decided we’re not allowed to make any progress on climate unless we do it through them so fuck Gore and fuck anyone who’d dare support that disgusting “mOdErAtE!”

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You think you might be projecting just a little bit of internalized anger there?

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What really gets my goat is how some people now act like George W Bush is this respectable elder statesman that only did his best and oh, how cute, he’s friends with Michelle Obama. Like, sure, next to Trump he looks like a political savant, but come on, he still was a total piece of shit that did lasting damage.

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He literally lost the popular vote, how does “vote more” mean anything

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Protest voters who supported Stein alone would have flipped every single rust belt state had they decided on the country over feeling validated in wanting to vote “for” someone, and Zoomers and Millenials simply matching their share of the population in turnout could have propelled Bernie to the front of the primaries and over the finish line.

Nevermind how not voting let trump happen, not voting let clinton happen.

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-13 points

True story. If Gen X didn’t vote they literally died. /s

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9 points

Be boring somewhere else.

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Sorry, just trying to add some levity.

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