Comment by Mango@lemmy.world on Lemmy needs better integration/federation. Too much content is hidden. A community on the biggest instance was not visible to me on another large instance.

I did a search from shitjustworks for “reddit die” and did not find https://lemmy.world/c/watchredditdie so I made https://sh.itjust.works/c/watchredditdie (unnecessarily). This should really not happen. When someone makes a community there should be a “ping” sent out to notify all other federated instances.

And from what I know, if I post to !sh.itjust.works/c/watchredditdie only users on sh.itjust.works will see the posts until other people from other instances randomly come across it somehow and subscribe? This really needs to be improved.

Why is it that an instance decides for me which instances I can see? Why is it that mods are deciding for me which comments are censored?

Instances are the ones hosting the data on their servers + things not having mods can devolve very quickly with things like the nazi bar problem or the scam links that have been getting posted and removed in some communities. This is a different thing than whats in the post though, the post is talking about all communities needing to be fetched manually the first time theyre viewed

Ok, so why can’t I just host the data on my own device and subscribe/unsubscribe from mods’ actions?

Host your own instance and that would be the case

I wouldn’t be seeing what mods are censoring elsewhere. It wouldn’t be the case.

And I’m just supposed to check it every time I open a post?

You can, it’s called hosting your own instance. It’s literally one of the points of the Fediverse (i.e. ‘Fuck you I don’t like how you’re running things, I’ll go make my own with blackjack and hookers’). If an instance admin does things you don’t like, you get to leave, go to a new instance, and follow the same communities you did before via that one instead.

So you’re telling me hosting my own instance is called “hosting my own instance” what in the fuck

I know right? Magical!

I still wouldn’t be seeing the content that mods are censoring elsewhere.

Any community that isn’t 100% fully owned and operated by you, yourself, Mango, is going to run into the risk of a mod ‘censoring’ or deleting something that you wanna see.

Any and every community. Here, Reddit, Facebook, any social media, any forum public or private. If you yourself don’t own and run it in its entirely, that’s a problem you cannot avoid.

So I mean this without any real intended offense but: shit or get off the pot. Run your own community that connects to no other system or service run by other people and hope the people you wanna talk to drop by, or tbh get used to it ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Edit: Can revenge-downvote me all you want Pepsi but I’m right on this one lol.

You know how ublock origin works? You pick out lists of filters that people have made. You’re basically subscribing to moderators.

I don’t think I’m interested in a platform that doesn’t function that way. It’s the only way to make sure moderators aren’t just deciding the narrative for everyone else. It doesn’t matter if the majority of people agree with a moderator’s decisions of those decisions are wrong.

The modlogs public to see removed comments. Just a bit difficult to navigate through currently

That’s ok for auditing a moderator, but no good for seeing everyone’s stance on the particular topic or post I’m interested in.

Because you’re too lazy to make your own instance.

Fuck are you talking about? You’re on Lemmy.world, crying about Lemmy.world instance mods.

You can hop to another instance whenever you want. Lemm.ee has a very neutral defederation policy, if that’s you’re concern move there. If you want total control over federation, spin up your own instance

Otherwise stop whining

Get over yourself. I’m complaining about the format of the software, not this specific instance, though this instance IS shit.

I think moderation removals should only censor for the people subscribed to that moderator. Stuff that needs removed for reasons like people using an instance to dump data or illegal content and whatnot should be admin territory.

If I make my own instance, I’m still not seeing what moderators have removed elsewhere. It’s removed.

Demands software they didn’t develop and servers they don’t run abide by their self-proclaimed criteria

Tells others to “get over yourself”

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