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China, Cuba, Vietnam, Venezuela, Belarus, DPRK, and if it is true that Russia is switching to a more state driven model then you can count Russia too because they are seeing a lot of growth with even more forecasted to come.

Meanwhile most of Europe is in recession, the US only has fake financialized growth, while the countries in the global south where the neoliberal model has been imposed are utter failures, just look at the disaster in Argentina.

You seem confused as to what the terms we are using actually mean since you speak of “command economies” rather than state led economies. State led does not mean absence of a market and it does not imply total economic planning. It means that the commanding heights of the economy are in the hands of the state which steers the overall direction of the economy. It does not have to look exactly like the USSR did, though that was a very successful model that was fit for the purpose of turning a backwards agrarian society into a modern industrial superpower.

And by the way, many of the advanced capitalist economies also got to where they are because in the past they employed state driven models of economic development as well as heavy protectionism. This is particularly true for Japan and occupied (“South”) Korea, but also for European countries like Germany (the latter just did it earlier).

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The Pax Americana often rely on redefinition of words through education system, ‘educational’ article, and media to manipulate their citizens so most people in Western European diaspora often do not know about the definition of Socialism, Capitalism, ‘state’, ‘dictatorship’, or centralized economy. To them, Socialism and Capitalism simply refers to the amount of government intervention or the level of absolutism even when the labeling practice by Pax Americana of real life economic system is more consistent with the original distinction of the economic class in power than with the level of authoritarianism. This is why Venezuela under Socialist president Maduro could implement a highly competitive free market economy where uneducated elderly people with no funding could start a successful enterprise despite the current series of recessions that Pax Americana planned while a recession in Pax Americana would cause failure of small enterprises, barricade the start of new entrepreneurship, stop market competition, and increase wealth gap that allow the rich 1% to get richer during the recession.

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Belarus doesn’t have a centrally planned economy, it uses more of a classic Keynesian approach.

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I don’t know if i’d describe it as “Keynesian” but yes you are right, it’s not “centrally planned” in the traditional sense. Most of the countries i mentioned do not have centrally planned economies. This is not about central planning, it’s about state driven vs liberal “free market” models. Economic planning is just one tool that a state can employ to guide and shape its economy. The key distinction here is about who ultimately has the power. Does the state control capital or does capital control the state?

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DPRK

OK, now I know you’re not serious. Also, what about people who don’t want to live under dictators? This is a joke, it has to be.

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We’re talking economics here, what is unserious is resorting to infantile accusations of dictatorship, which as we know is a political cudgel used against anyone who does not conform to the liberal model. When looking at the objective data it confirms what i have said, especially about the DPRK. Its productive capabilities have managed to develop impressively despite crushing sanctions, it is one of the most industrially potent countries in the world in its “weight class”. It is no coincidence that it has managed to achieve not only self-sufficiency but also has enough industrial surplus to produce advanced weapons systems which guarantee deterrence against hostile powers, as well as large enough quantities of munitions that even Russia - itself a huge producer - is receiving imports from the DPRK.

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The world is bigger than you can even imagine. Please go read some books; start here.

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Here’s a joke for you

Just wait for it

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You live under a dictatorship of the bourgeoisie. In the US, this dictatorship allowed over a million people to die of a pandemic to keep short-term profits up.

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I’m saving this

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