If we ended capitalism right now, white supremacy would still exist. The contradiction of settlers living on stolen land would still exist, hence why colonialism is the primary contradiction. It’s why the US must cease to exist as it is in order to solve that contradiction. Land must be returned to the Natives and colonized people that built the empire.
Whiteness as an ideology must be dismantled. Consumption, domination, hyperindividualism, etc are all tenets of whiteness and subsequently capitalism. You can’t tackle one without the other.
Whiteness as an ideology must be dismantled. Consumption, domination, hyperindividualism, etc are all tenets of whiteness and subsequently capitalism.
I’m with you in some of what you’re saying but this is an extraordinarily poor and non Marxist idea. Where did you hear this? Capitalism is the result of “whiteness”? You surely must have misspoke?
I didn’t say that capitalism is the result of whiteness, just that they’re inexorably linked together. Colonialism is what ties the labor aristocracy and racial hierarchy together. The “culture” of the United States includes consumption, etc, all the things I mentioned but those ideals are solely colonial ones.
didn’t say that capitalism is the result of whiteness, just that they’re inexorably linked together.
This is either the same thing or even worse. This entire thread is bizarre and for me just demonstrates how insular and far removed from humanity American culture has become.
Exactly what it is about a lack of melanin causes people to decide to exploit others and appropriate their surplus value is a theory I can’t wait to hear. Perhaps hypervitaminosis D is the fundamental process causing a kind of atavistic savagery and sociopathy? This is the best hypothesis I can manage with all generosity and it’s wacky as fuck. Please explain yours.
If you believe that capitalism is an inevitable stage then it can emerge anywhere the conditions allow for it. If capitalism had emerged in Africa you’d be telling me that capitlism and blackness are inexorably linked together.
That’s fairly idealist of you to claim that.
Why is it idealist? Three reasons:
First of all, the means of production, (and through which we can sustain the population density in the states) is industry. Without industry, farms will not be able to generate enough yield to sustain our population density.
Secondly, suppose that a revolution happens, and the American experiment is ended. Will the workers and the people who have revolted, agree to give the means of production to the aboriginals, essentially placing them as a new ruling class? It would be against working class interests.
Thirdly, human society will organize themselves in response to material conditions. In the case of the capture or gifting of the industrial mode of production to the aboriginals, the previously equitable aboriginals will reorganize themselves to for a new capitalist class.
A more equitable solution is to have aboriginals take part in the revolution and subsequently collectively own the land and means of production alongside the working class.
Racial and other hierarchies are developed in response to not just capitalism, but rather property, the defence of property, and the conquest of properties. As it is, whiteness is just another word for the capitalist class, as representative for the ruling hierarchical class. For example, Obama is white.
So, to get rid of whiteness, you must change/reorganize our current mode of production. (A la Lenin) But to have enough bargaining power to do that, you must organize across all the intersections.
And how do we do that? By focusing on our common interests, organizing around our common interests, and fighting for our common interests. How do we not do that? By focusing on our differences and hiding the capitalist contradiction through arguing about the contradiction between intersections.
National liberation comes first, if you think you can ignore Native people and the descendants of slaves brought here against their will you’re going to have an extremely bad time trying to build a cohesive revolution in the US.
