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There is little wrong with combustion cars, at least compared to electric cars Compared to actual solutions, both suck ass

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That is absurd on its face.

ICE cars haven’t significantly improved in close to a century, electric cars are becoming more affordable, efficient, and sustainable every year.

ICE cars are much more trouble to maintain and cost more to maintain, and as of this year, produce.

ICE cars release more pollutants, while electric cars are annually decreasing and can continue to decrease their pollutants.

There’s a huge difference between electric and ICE, don’t let some imagined ideal stop you from supporting a practical leap in the right direction.

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ICE cars haven’t significantly improved in close to a century

Let’s see, power steering and seatbelts became standard around half a century ago, the OBD2 port became standard in the 80s, radios got significantly better, starting as a simple AM Radio to then also putting in an 8 track player, and in the 90s and 2000syou could get multiple disc changer radios (I had a 2005 Ford Escape I got for next to nothing a few years agp which had a 5 cd changer stock) then in the last 20 years fuel efficiency has improved dramatically. And this is all just what I can think of as someone who sometimes walks through car shows to look at the pretty cars but has no clue what he’s looking at.

I get what you’re saying about EVs being a brilliant step forward from ICE vehicles. Technically I think an all-electric drivetrain should be the way forwards on all vehicles, including hybrids (seriously if it’s good enough for basically every diesel locomotive out there, it’s good enough for a car) but you have to be honest in your arguments

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I agree that car accessories like radios, seat belts, and CD players have improved significantly, but that does not translate to ICEs themselves being significantly improved.

Combustion engines:

1923 - 14 mpg

1966 - 13.5 mpg

1991 - 16 mpg

2019 - 25mpg

Electric cars:

2009 - 85 mpge

2019 - 113

Drivetrains, fuel efficiency, sustainable fuel (solar panels built into the body of the car), battery tech improvement, and so on.

Electric cars have all of the accessory improvements you’re talking about related to ICEs, but are also rapidly minimizing all the relevant material, environmental, and even maintenance costs of manufacturing and operating vehicles to become more sustainable at a much more rapid pace than ICEs have.

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Ah yes, radio, the main issue why cars kill the environment that much. Or was it the number of Ethernet ports in old OBD connector? I can’t quite remember what issue contributes more to climate change

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Seems like you dont understand the problem

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Love to hear your thoughts

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