Comment by Nudding@lemmy.world on Why do we even have to have this conversation in the first place

Yeah he should really pull back on that giant “produce oil” lever he’s got on the Resolute desk with the presidential seal on the handle.

Or, you know, treat the climate apocalypse seriously.

How do you propose Biden stop shale drillers on private property in Texas and New Mexico? Well he signed a massive investment in green energy and infrastructure that can help renewable technologies compete more effectively with fossil fuels. Should more immediate and drastic action happen? I believe so, but Biden can’t do that without a Congress that agrees. Elect more Democrats to Congress

Weird how when there’s a Conservative in charge they have unlimited power to ruin the country, but the dems hands are so tied, he couldn’t possibly have done anything to stop the big bad oil companies.

Weird how it’s easier to break something than to build something

Could he not break the fossil fuel industry then?

He really can’t. Breaking the fossil fuel industry would require building a regulatory framework to do so, which would require congressional action. On the other hand, directing federal agencies to stop enforcing existing regulations and making internal decisions to undermine federal oversight of industry (aka breaking the regulatory framework) is much easier.

Also, when gas prices go up people get angry

So instead of fighting against the system that’s actively destroying the environment, you decide to advocate for business as usual.

When the lesser of two evils is still an apocalypse, it’s time to change the system.

Breaking the fossil fuel industry would require building a regulatory framework to do so,

no, he can charge them with espionage, seize their assets, and make them fight it in a fisa court where they can’t see the evidence.

The EPA was stripped of its power to regulate carbon emissions in 2022. Congress would need to pass another Clean Air Act for them to do anything. Even then with the Chevron precedent about to be overturned in the coming weeks, the EPA will have the authority to do…not a god damned thing.

https://www.npr.org/2022/06/30/1103595898/supreme-court-epa-climate-change

the same supreme Court which just got undermined in Hawaii?

make em do it again.

How? Hawaii has a state constitution backing their decision. What can the EPA do? Say they Regulate climate emissions and ban oil extraction tomorrow. What happens? Texas and the other red oil producing states just fall in line? They say “gosh, I guess they can tell us what to do even though my boys on the cout said they can’t, oh well, we lose”

Of course not. Blue states tend to not need to be told what to do and are often the ones making the standards that are later imposed by the EPA nationally (see CARB standards still regulating MPG for example). So the EPA will be telling red states what to do, with no authority to do so and you seriously think they will just…do it? In what universe do you live, because I’d sure like to be there.

>So the EPA will be telling red states what to do, with no authority to do so and you seriously think they will just…do it?

not red states. people. they will have to shell out for lawyers, and get a court date, and until then, they won’t be polluting.

but lets say that biden can’t find anyone at the epa willing to defy the impotent court: he could just use his national security powers.

but he won’t because he doesn’t actually care to fix things.

Which has the power to do what in this case?

You would think, based on the name, protect the environment.

If you’re judging agencies by their names rather than the powers given to them through enacted legislation, I guess I don’t know what to tell you

So instead of focusing on giving the EPA more power to do their job, what has he been doing for the past 4 years?

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