It’s a dark time to be a tech worker right now::Nearly 300,000 tech employees have been laid off since last year, data shows.

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Interesting trend in the comments - technology veterans who went through the dotCom crash have quietly moved to union jobs, and aren’t sweating this iteration.

Worth keeping in mind.

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Unions aren’t exactly a saving grace

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I would argue they are. My reasoning for this argument would be pointing at the history of the working class.

What is your reasoning for saying they are not?

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Corporations wouldn’t fight unions so hard (historically trying to kill their members) if unions weren’t both effective and a threat to their power and wealth. They really, REALLY do not want us to unionize.

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Low pay for one. They start you low even if you have experience. You lose the ability to negotiate your pay or promotions.

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This sounds like more wishful thinking than reality. Like what SWE roles are there that are union? I graduated right after the dotcom burst, with a Computer Engineering degree, I now work as a SWE, and I don’t know a single one of my peers that has entered a union.

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wishful thinking

It’s an observation about what other SWEs are reporting elsewhere in this thread.

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I’d be extremely careful about believing what you read in the comment sections of lemmy.

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I’ve never met a dev in a union. What companies have a union?

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I think NASA does

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Google has one, but it’s still very small at the moment.

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Technology unions are common in public sector roles.

Probably because the culture is different in a few key ways:

  1. Government workers rarely even get a cost of living adjustment, without a union, even when they’re critical. Politicians often have the final say, and often don’t care about retaining key staff. (Or actively try to lose key staff…) This leads to a situation where the Union has strong public support, because the Union’s motives are aligned with allowing basic government services to continue during political wind changes.
  2. A government doing Union busting gets immediately called out as Fascism. The government telling you you can’t get together to talk about how the government should change - is not a good look.
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