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If you want Germany to atone for Nazism, give Israel your country

Sounds fancy, but this is as realistic as a permanent peace with Gaza as long as it is controlled by the Hamas terrorists that have the main goal to destroy Israel.

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In Germany, the word is criticised, because of the “Interpretationsspielraum” (“wiggle room”).

but that Zionist Jews can do whatever they want.

There are multiple German politicians warning about a disaster in Rafah, about flooding tunnels with sea water, etc. Acting like Germany is cheering “Well done, go on!!!” is far away from the truth.

Germany is always on the wrong side of history it seems.

Interesting, because Germany was and is kind of well aligned with the Western World for the last decades…

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I don’t necessarily agree with every point from the previous poster, but saying Germany is in line with the western world isn’t exactly a defense because the western world hasn’t exactly been above reproach for the last 25 years. There is a lot of Muslim blood on several countries hands. I understand that you argued that the Palestinians struck first, but when you look at the overall death toll, it’s pretty clear that it isn’t the west getting slaughtered on a regular basis in the last decades.

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I don’t necessarily agree with every point from the previous poster, but saying Germany is in line with the western world isn’t exactly a defense because the western world hasn’t exactly been above reproach for the last 25 years.

I did not see it as a defense… More like a “Maybe, you are on the wrong side, too”…

I understand that you argued that the Palestinians struck first, but when you look at the overall death toll, it’s pretty clear that it isn’t the west getting slaughtered on a regular basis in the last decades.

The numbers were always like that. Hamas kills X Israelis, Israel reacts and kill X * 10 Palestinians.

Thus, Hamas knew how bad the consequences of the latest massacre could be. I think, Hamas wanted all this. They wanted these pictures. They wanted to separate Israel and some Muslim-countries. One more reason to make sure, they lose power.

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Whether they wanted it or not, they aren’t the ones personally pulling the trigger on Palestinians. The Israelis still have a choice about how they respond, and they’ve chosen utter annihilation. Just because you are baited doesn’t mean you have to take the bait.

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