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i agree with you that irc is not a good alternative, but [Matrix] is

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I’ve evaluated Matrix multiple times, even tried to set up a homeserver once, and I can confidently say it’s an unusable mess compared to Discord.

If I wanted to set up a community like on Discord the experience would be worse than Discord 8-7 years ago. Is there a nice, GUI based system for managing permissions, administration and members in a group across 50 channels yet? No? Alright.

Also every time I try to set up Element on another device it takes like 5 attempts to get it to stop spouting errors about E2E stuff, and then still fails to decrypt messages.

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it is a bit of a mess admittedly, but it is getting better, and irc is way worse in the user-friendlyness regard

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I think you meant XMPP?

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XMPP is dead and buried lets be honest

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I mean, it hopefully wasn’t, it’s a much lighter, simpler and more efficient protocol and seems to stand as a perfect middle ground between IRC and nu-protocols.

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