86 points

Yeah, I love my phone and the whole world it opens up, having access to so much information in my pocket. But I also hate how tied we are to them now. I bought tickets for a gig recently and the only way I can access them is by downloading an app (that I’m only going to use for this one gig). What if I didn’t have a smartphone? What if I didn’t want to take a smartphone to a gig? You aren’t allowed to go to this gig without one, and it’s a small thing, but I don’t like how the option is out of your hands.

Pretty much every supermarket in the UK now requires you to download an app so you can access their offers. I hate this so much.

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The most ridiculous part are services insisting you install an app when everything their app does could be in a progressive web app. PWAs are less work to develop as they can run on any device with a browser. For fast food and clothing brands especially, I think PWAs are a no brainer. (Unless you want to track your customers coughTimHortonscough)

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4 points

Decathlon you need a smartphone for their loyalty card. Only upside is you don’t have to get receipts for their 1 year return policy.

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1 point

In my country (Czech Republic) you can tell them your email address that is tied to your account

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It’s your last point there. They want you to install an app because said apps can collect a lot more data points on a fool consumer than a web app.

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7 points

It is pretty ridiculous. They started doing the same thing with app ticket at Red Rocks in Colorado. So I have an ancient android phone I use for that shit now, doesn’t even have a sim card in it. Has the ticket app and I may put a grocery store app on it at some point, but otherwise it’s factory fresh. They can keep their grubby apps off my real phone.

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14 points

My family got a new KitchenAid stove and I wanted to set a stop time for the oven while we went for a walk. I am able to do this on my shitty oven at our apartment.

I had to connect the stove to wifi, download an app, make an account, and link the stove. All to set a timer. Even then of course there was an error linking them.

Usually I wouldn’t have done that but I was really looking forward to the walk. I was one of the first adopters of Hue lights and used to be excited for smart home stuff. But this is so stupid.

Wondering if it’s some sort of data collection thing and also there’s no way a kitchen appliance company focuses on security and making their wifi connected devices secure.

So dumb.

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7 points

I never buy any appliances with WiFi or any IoT shit, I draw a hard line there. That shit is cancer.

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3 points

I’m willing to buy smart appliances, but only if they are LAN only and connect to HomeAssistant. No data collection, no privacy policy, no outside access

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1 point

It’s getting harder not to buy ones tbh

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1 point

There’s always a way to get tickets without using an app.

It just takes LOTS OF MONEYYYYY

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62 points

I thought I lost my phone before moving states and nearly burst into tears. It has my insurance, the map, what if something happened to me on the road, etc. It was an awful spiraling feeling. Thankfully I found it, but it was a hard reality check of how much I have tied to this little device.

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11 points

Yup. Ive spend a lot of time with backups and screenshots of my apps/home screen in case I need to replace it, and I still get weird when I think about it. Years of settings and customization built up, no way I’d be able to get it back 100%.

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1 point

Why don’t you just back things up through iCloud or Google Drive?

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1 point

I do, but it doesn’t back up everything. Android just doesn’t have the backup that apple has unfortunately.

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6 points

I run a contracting business and have had straight panic attacks over not being able to find my phone as I’m rushing out the door for the day. I really need to set up an asterisk server and keep my sim cards there but I just don’t have time, nor am I paying a service a ridiculous monthly fee to run it.

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6 points

Uhm can you explain a little more about the asterisk server and the sims cards. I thought asterisk wasn’t for mobile phones.

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I’m trying to remember myself, but I remember reading about a way to feed a sim interface into a digital telephony card for use with asterisk. It was basically like a modem the fed a voip/sip line into the system. This was years ago that I read this and I could be completely misremembering it.

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3 points

I know Apple is restrictive, like that other guy who commented who likes to apply customizations, but I love that apple products talk to each other seamlessly. I could have gone on through my tablet, except that I don’t pay for it to have its own wireless signal.

That’s actually how I found my phone. My neighbor let me tag on to her WiFi and I used the Find My Phone feature with my iPad. Saved me from a meltdown lol

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28 points

I have been slowly setting myself up with as many alternatives as possible. We have a Garmin in the car so we don’t use Gmaps, I’ve ditched all corps like Google or Facebook even run my own search engine. Honestly as daunting as it is once your not tied to a phone life is so much better. Don’t fall into the trap

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4 points

Interesting - I’ve been thinking about trying to decentralize lately, and been having fun collecting my data from sites to analyze my own behaviours in data and build unique recommendation engines for myself and was recently thinking about trying to build a crawler and DIY search engine for myself. Any tips/pitfalls on getting started with that?

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2 points

Just replied above you. Thought I could dm anyone on Lemmy but not outside our instances it seems…

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3 points

I’m getting DMs and am on my own instance…

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Kudos to you. I’ve tried to degoogle myself (I’d say I was moderately successful until my last company came along), although it’s been a pretty irritating ride. Now I’m still very sensitive when it comes to security and privacy but not to the extent I was before.

I misplaced my phone a few days ago and didn’t think of looking for it until just yesterday. The only reason I did was for OTP for my banking apps (browser and Paypal still asked me for them). If not for those, I think I can pretty much go without a smartphone, tbh. My PC and laptop, though? Can’t.

Running your own search engine sounds very interesting. How steep would the learning curve be? And is it feasible for only personal use?

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4 points

Ye it’s the freaking bank and company login authenticator else I would have rooted and do whatever I want with MY phone

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7 points

Searxng is my go to. Consider using a public instance or hosting off-site to increase anonymity.

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4 points

This is how I go to. Hosted on a Linode that isn’t in my actual name. Not that that helps toonmuch

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3 points

Most of the public instances I tried stopped working often enough to be annoying. Like if you set one as your browser default and then google blocks it, it’s just frustrating.

I’ve gotten into the habit of just searching directly on specific sites rather than just searching the whole internet - really when you search for things the vast majority of the time you know what site is going to have what you’re looking for.

For everything else I’ve been using bing. The results are fine and chatgpt really is dope. I know they’re just as bad for privacy as google but at least it’s not google having all my data.

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2 points

in case you didn’t know: it’s relatively easy to write, in just a few lines, a little program to produce the OTP codes on a computer instead of a phone app.

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23 points

I’ve heard the single most important purchase incredibly low income people can make is a phone, because without it they can’t apply to new jobs or network with people because all applications are done online these days

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8 points

I’ve seen homeless people with smart phones. There’s definitely affordable ones out there

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6 points

You can buy a Xiaomi phone that will last you for 4 years for less than $99, and there’s some “functional” phones for much less than that but they will be unusably slow for casual use and more like emergency devices. Then there’s the 2nd hand market…

Fortunately smart phone access is not that difficult

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6 points

Then you have to work out a data plan. At least in the US, free wifi is t as ubiquitous as it is in Europe (at least in my experience).

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12 points

Same goes with reading skills, which at some point weren’t needed in society I bet.

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13 points

Interesting perspective but then I think of the data on this phone as an extension of my privacy/private life; literacy doesn’t track.

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6 points

I guess privacy is getting more and more popular nowadays. Hopefully private smartphones will become easier to get

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3 points

Yeah, phones such, literacy doesn’t. But phones could have better software and hardware, then it would be fine.

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4 points

Except that skills aren’t at risk of being stolen, lost or stop working. Phones are tools, not skills.

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