cross-posted from: https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/35555.

A fellow mod informed me that about it as I was laying in bed. Reddit sent a message to the mod team and after 1 hour demoded me. I didn’t even had time to see it, never-mind respond to it.

Looks like we rattled reddit enough to start shooting. There goes all that fancy talk about our protest not affecting them much.

Just FYI for now. It’s late here so I’ll see how we proceed tomorrow.

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It’s amazing that the threat to unmod people actually worked, and a lot of subreddits are reopening, saying that “they have no other option”. It shows that mods care more about their place in their subreddit than the community they supposedly did their protest for.

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Exactly. They say the threat is that the sub will be reopened and then counter the threat by… reopening it?

The sub is getting opened either way. The choice they have to make has nothing to do with whether the sub opens or not, it’s about the principle of the protest. They’re showing quite clearly that they never cared for that aspect. They just want the “i’ma good mod you guys, honest” rep. Cowards.

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I think time will tell. Maybe opening it up and maintaining mod status will let them be able to burn it down from the inside. /r/pics has shifted the protest into only allowing pictures of John Oliver. Had all the mods been removed and replaced and the sub opened, then thats effectively the end of the protest.

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/r/pics is one of the strongest protest subs on my feed right now, I think it’s the right idea. /r/interestingasfuck is even better.

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They are not cowards. They own and protect their property from destruction. Wouldn’t you say you would?

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Communities aren’t property.

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I came to the same conclusion in a post on a sub that was debating whether they should re-open permanently or not. I’ll leave it to you to imagine how well it went over, but it should be added that this behavior doesn’t only affect mods or power users; it’s true of the userbase in general. People will latch onto anything they can in order to defend crossing their own picket line.

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Reddit mods crave the “power” they get from donating their time and labor to a mega corp.

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Well, if your choice is failing+personal loss vs. just failing, then which one would you expect most people to go for!?

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Is it a personal loss though?

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Yeah, I don’t actually see loosing anything, except valuable time to mod a community.

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Btw Piracy moved to:

@piracy@lemmy.dbzer0.com

Run by the same mod. They have their megathread, faqs, and everything up already. Everything that they need for their community to start again in this new place… I would imagine the users of a sub all about piracy are absolutely fine about leaving Reddit for something new.

ETA: Comment edited so you can see the whole magazine name.

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Amazing news to have r/piracy here! Hopefully they have more liberty here and can talk openly

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Off subject, but I just discovered I can’t comment on kbin. Just when I thought I had the fediverse figured out.

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I’m on kbin.social and I see your comment. What network/instance do you have your account on?

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The link posted is only useful if your account is with kbin.social. Go to [URL your account is with]/[c if Lemmy, or m if kbin]/piracy@lemmy.dbzer0.com

For you, that would be https://lemmy.world/c/piracy@lemmy.dbzer0.com

Searching !piracy@lemmy.dbzer0.com in your Lemmy instances search (burger menu -> search) should also work, and links to /c/piracy@lemmy.dbzer0.com should work on the Lemmy web client, and should work in the next release of Jerboa (0.0.35) judging by https://github.com/dessalines/jerboa/pulse

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Yes, I discovered later that when I submit my comment it shortens it. I’ll try to edit my comment.

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Really hope someone fix this at some point, because it is a pain in the ass a so simple thing as just hypertexting another instance

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Really? I’m subscribed to some kbin communities and can comment. Weird

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Why do they want a piracy community reopened?

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It’s kind of hilarious. For years the mods of /r/piracy have been walking on eggshells about what kinds of links and discussion are permitted there because they were afraid Reddit would shut them down at any moment. And now Reddit is tossing the mods that worked so hard to toe their line and forcing them open.

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Yeah, that’s quite confusing, you’d think they might not be exactly rushing to open one of the more legally complicated subs.

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Likely they don’t. It was probably sent to all indefinite blackout subs.

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5 points

It wasn’t. I never got anything.

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2 points

Though demodding someone can’t be automated I think

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You can automate anything on your own platform.

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Maybe with reddit’s internal API it’s possible

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Because it’s all about numbers and they don’t care how they get them.

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I foresee another great article…

Reddit CEO forces a number of subreddits to open, starting with ‘copyright infringement’ subreddit /r/Piracy and ‘anti-capitalist’ subreddit r/antiwork

Just keep digging spez. Maybe you’ll make it to China and you can start WeQQit. Not to be confused with Wreqqit, which is what you’re doing here.

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8 points

Almost like he’s doing it on purpose…

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Damn, you absolutely bodied spez lmao

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Someone should send this to relevant investors and DMCA authority, I’m sure they’ll love it

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I’m not a frequent visitor of that subreddit so I’m not really informed about this, but isn’t this kind of like cutting off your nose to spite your face? I get where you’re coming from, but there’s a few outcomes here, none of which are conducive to the longevity of communities like this:

  • The community is investigated and determined to be in violation of the DMCA for some reason. This forces reddit to close it, but may also trigger a closer look into organized communities like this one.
  • If the aforementioned reason is because of links obscured behind hashes (as pirate subreddits love to do as their workaround), this has far-reaching implications and would directly affect the communities on the fediverse or other websites in one way or another, as it would be proven to not be as effective as people seem to think it is.
  • If the aforementioned reason is because of information regarding pirated content being hosted there, then that’s even worse, for obvious reasons, since they would be willing to file a DMCA for the mere mention of offending content.
  • If nothing happens, then it was essentially a waste of time; the only way it wouldn’t be a waste of time is if there was a positive outcome. I don’t see one, personally.

Obviously companies can DMCA for whatever reason they want, but the entire idea of communities like this is to stay under the radar.

Maybe I’m completely off-base with what I’m saying; this was just a thought I was tossing around in my head while I was trying to sleep shortly after reading this comment. It just doesn’t seem terribly productive. The only part that could be somewhat impactful would be if the relevant investors became aware, but the fact of the matter is that reddit will bend ass-backwards for these people, and if they were to take issue with that subreddit, then it’s gone.

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Completely agree. I’d rather have these communities fly under the radar than get unwanted attention.

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