Conservative cardinals had challenged the pope to confirm teachings on LGBTQ+ issues

Pope Francis has suggested there could be ways to bless same-sex unions, responding to five conservative cardinals who challenged him to affirm church teaching on homosexuality ahead of a big meeting where LGBTQ+ Catholics are on the agenda.

The Vatican on Monday published a letter Francis wrote to the cardinals on 11 July after receiving a list of five questions, or dubia, from them a day earlier. In it, Francis suggests that such blessings could be studied if they did not confuse the blessing with sacramental marriage.

New Ways Ministry, which advocates for LGBTQ+ Catholics, said the letter “significantly advances” efforts to make LGBTQ+ Catholics welcomed in the church and represented “one big straw towards breaking the camel’s back” in their marginalisation.

The Vatican holds that marriage is an indissoluble union between man and woman. As a result, it has long opposed gay marriage. But Francis has voiced support for civil laws extending legal benefits to same-sex spouses, and Catholic priests in parts of Europe have been blessing same-sex unions without Vatican censure.

Francis’ response to the cardinals, however, marks a reversal from the Vatican’s current official position. In an explanatory note in 2021, the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith said that the church could not bless gay unions because “God cannot bless sin”.

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Why are there LGBT+ Catholic groups? Catholicism hates them and has since forever.

Jesus doesn’t care if you’re Catholic. The Golden Rule is all anyone needs to follow Jesus.

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But what about the time that Jesus said “I tell you solemnly, you must hate all those who are different from you, for they steal jobs, send your nations into debt and corrupt your children. And also, I just got word from God, he says he’s giving every American the right to own a gun. Not sure what that means but someone write that down because it’s probably going to be important for later.”

Then he turned the temple into a market and punched a bunch of poor people or something.

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Behold the teachings of Supply-Side Jesus.

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This never gets old 🤣

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That’s Paul, not Jesus.

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wasn’t that part that was misstranslated?

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The theory among some open, accepting Christians is that Paul was actually talking about the various abusive practices like pedophilia that were common among the ancient Greek peoples of the region.

The ancient and classical world was a profoundly fucked up place.

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This just in: King of millenia old pedophile ring admits being Gay is okay I guess.

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Pedophiles have been blessed for centuries in the church, but gay people is still controversial to them

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“God cannot bless sin”.

God: lmao watch me

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“And we specifically call this particularly entertaining sin the ol’ Vatican Reversal.”

If that doesn’t get a particularly gay sex act named after it, I’ll be disappointed.

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I know it’s easy to ask why LGBTQ folks would care about something like this, and I felt the same way until recently.

One of my best friends is a gay man. He was out and living a happy life until his mother got cancer and died.

He blamed himself for being gay and not religious enough for her death, so he decided to go full catholic like she was - Mass every day, prayers all the time, and become celibate, I guess, I don’t ask and we live in different states.

So for his sake, I hope this will be something positive in his life so he can stop feeling guilty and ashamed.

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But isn’t the church the reason why he feels that way in the first place?

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Yeah, and I’m not excusing them. I was raised in it too and left as soon as I turned 18.

But I see lots of comments saying things like “Why would LGBTQ folks care…the church hates them, etc” and I was explaining why, at least, this one person does.

The church could spontaneously combust tomorrow and the world would be a better place for it. I’m not excusing them, I hate them…I miss my friend who has changed so much and listens to Jesus podcasts and shit and doesn’t really talk about much else. Fuck the church.

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He’s a PR pope. Jorge Mario Bergoglio was a homophobic, woman hating bigot long before he was pope. Even for Argentina he was considered conservative. This whole “progressive pope” angle is nothing but PR after the last Nazi youth pope was so disliked.

Pope Francis to this day refuses to acknowledge or meet with the victims of his priest’s sexual abuse, and treats the victims like they don’t exist, turning them away from the Vatican.

He’s a bigger monster than most Popes just because he’s such a fake

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It seems like the more conservative catholics attack him the further left he goes.

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He wants headlines that induce exactly the kind of opinion you just espoused. Looks like it’s working.

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