The Supreme Court is expected to issue its ruling on the Biden administration’s student loan forgiveness plan this month. Anticipation for the ruling is high.

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I’m not sure why anyone cares that student loans are being forgiven. It literally harms no one

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In fact, in contrast to not harming people, it actually has the potential for a great boost in economic activity. Giving money/erasing debt for low income/middle income people tends to result in local spending. These people don’t hoard wealth like occurs when you give rich people or corporations tax cuts.

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Yeah, but if you give things to the peons they start expecting to live a better life… and if they have better lives how can we look down on them and feel better about how superior we are?

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This is the only way I could get behind it: as a form of stimulus. But we don’t NEED stimulus right now. The economy is doing great, inflation aside, and stimulus would only make inflation worse.

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We can kill inflation now with windfall corporate profit taxes. We could also put controls on stock buybacks.

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But it helps many people, at the expense of predatory corporations, and the GQP cannot allow that.

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It harms the banks, which harms rich people, which harms politicians because rich people threaten… er, lobby them concerning campaign donations, SCOTUS has shown repeatedly in the last 2 years that they’re firmly in the pocket of a certain political party with rulings which enable them so they wine and dine Clarence Thomas and the rest (Google “Clarence Thomas corruption”)

If you think any of this has to do with how your life might improve you’ve not been paying attention.

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Aside from the “it’s not fair” argument (which IS a fair argument), my reason for being against debt forgiveness is that it hurts everyone, especially future generations.

The cost of colleges has exploded at least in part due to the federal government subsidizing the cost. If a thing costs $10, and the government promises to pay for $5 of it, then without price controls that thing tends to increase to costing $15.

Now if we have a federal government that has opened the door to paying off thousands of dollars in loans? Schools are going to get massively more expensive.

Not only does it not fix the problem, it is actively making the problem worse for future generations.

I think there’s also some merit to the idea that people with college degrees are generally more well-off than those without. Being “poor” because you make six figures but have a lot of debt is a VERY different situation than being poor because you just don’t have any money. I think the money allocated to paying off student loans could go to people who need it much more. Like people who never even had the opportunity to go to college.

The whole concept is a very “fuck you, I got mine” idea, something we millennials have always criticized boomers for. But now we’re doing it, in a big way.

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I’ve had cancer with worse medicine than modern generations, so nobody else should get better treatment, it’s not fair…

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Great job ignoring everything I said

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I support student loan forgiveness; however, not addressing the root problem only kicks the can down the road. What is the government doing to prevent this same situation from happening again in 5-10 years?

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Nothing. Then again the government isn’t doing the forgiveness either. Until Congress is no longer dead set on trying to increase everyone’s suffering, nothing will be done.

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If nothing else, student loans should no longer be exempt from bankruptcy. Makes no sense that any basically any debt can be forgiven except that one specific type for some reason.

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The “key things to know”

  1. SCOTUS decision expected this month
  2. President’s power to cancel debt is in question
  3. The plaintiffs may not have standing
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Or, the democrats could have rallied behind Bernie because a majority of dem voters resonated with his messaging instead Hillary’s. I maintain, that Trump was as much Dems fault as it was everyone else’s.

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He didn’t win the nomination. Then a bunch of Bernie supporters made the same mistake that so many did in 2000 and did a protest vote or didn’t vote at all and we got Trump. It’s almost comical how easily the right pulls this shit and gets their candidate to win.

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wait wait wait. Lets not forget dems use super delegates so winning is a lot like an electoral college victory. The party is asking for disloyalty under that undemocratic system. I will grant though it is supposed to be to keep someone like trump from running on the party ticket.

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More Hillary voters voted for McCain than Bernie voters that voted for Trump.

Stop pretending that your shitty candidate is owed votes. This is juts like when Dems say that Green party voters should’ve voted for them. If you want that, then actually try to earn said votes.

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