I’ve been considering paying for a European provider, mounting their service with rclone, and thus being transparent to most anything I host.

How do y’all backup your data?

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Right now just a spare hard drive on a pi that I rsync too, but I’m looking for better options as well.

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I have my data backed up locally on an HDD, though I’m planning on building a server machine to hold more data with parity (not just for backups). Important data I have backed up in Google drive and Proton drive, both encrypted before upload. It isn’t that big, I don’t back up media or anything in the cloud. Oh and I have some stuff in mega, but I stopped adding to that years ago. I should probably delete that account, thanks for the reminder!

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Two hard drives of the same size, one on site and one off site.

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Where do you keep your off-site one? Like a friend or family member’s house?

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I keep one in a bank deposit box. It costs like $10/year, fireproof, climate controlled, and exactly the right size for a 3.5" disk. Rotate every couple of months, because it is like 10-15 minute process to get into the vault.

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So your backed up data can be as old as a couple of months and requires manual interaction? I guess that’s better than nothing, but I’m looking for something more automated. I’m not sure what my options are for cloud storage or if they are safe from deletion. Or if having it in a closet in a friends house is really the best option.

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Either works, if you dont trust them encryption is always an option

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At home and at the shop where I work. At work the drives are actually stored in a Faraday cage.

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Nightly backups to an on-prem NAS. Then an rsync to a second off-site NAS at my folks house.

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Tape is the best medium for archiving data.

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I really want to use tape for backups, but holy expensive. Those tape drives are thousands of dollars.

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So tape doesn’t make sense for the typical person, unless you don’t have to buy the equipment and store i.

But, if you’re even a small company it becomes cheaper to use tape.

Companies don’t like deleting data. Ever. In fact some industries have laws that say they can’t delete data.

For example, the company I work in is small, but old. Our accounting department alone requires complex automated processes to do things each day that require data to be backed up.

From the beginning of time. I shit you not. There is no compression even.

And at the drop of a hat, the IT dept needs to be able to implement a backup from any time in the past. Although this almost never happens outside of the current pay cycle, they need to have the option available.

The best way they have to facilitate this (I hate it - like I said they’re old) is to simply write everything multiple times a night. And it’s everything since we started using digital storage. Yes, it’s overkill and makes no sense, but that’s the way it is for us. And that’s the way it is for a lot of companies.

So, when we’re talking about that amount of data, and tape having a storage cost advantage of 4:1 over disk, it more than pays for all the overhead for enterprise level backups.

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Damn, the last time I thought about this (20 years ago) I was able to buy a tape drive for a PC for like … I wanna say $250-300?? I forget the format, it was very very common though and tapes were dirt cheap, maybe $10-12 a pop. Worked great, if you were willing to sit around and swap tapes out as needed.

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I think the problem is that normal consumers wouldn’t ever buy a tape drive, so the only options still being produced are enterprise grade. The tapes are still pretty cheap, but the drives are absurd.

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I bought an incredibly overkill tape system a few years ago and then the power supply exploded in it and I never bothered to replace it. Still, definitely worth it

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Yes, tape has very steep entry costs and requires maintenance and storage.

Most of the time it doesn’t make sense for a person to use it, but rather a corporate entity that needs to backup petabytes of data multiple times a day.

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