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Hey! it will be great to have a proper alternative for the companies that are on CentOS. I take that as good news!

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Alma and Rocky have been around for a while already. Most people I know moved over to those after Centos went EOL. Not sure what Suse will do that these don’t already do.

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Alma and Rocky depend on the publicly available source code for RHEL. Red Hat decided to close source except to paying customers. https://www.theregister.com/2023/06/23/red_hat_centos_move/

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7 points

From the announcement: the will cooperate with Rocky and others to have a common rhel compatible fork

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Interesting. The place I work at mostly use RHEL, with Rocky as an option for customers not wanting to pay for RHEL support. Will look into Suse’s offering once it arrives.

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13 points

curious as to what they’d call it.

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If they don’t call it Green Lizard Enterprise Linux I’ll be disappointed.

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GLEL

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14 points

Sounds like a noise a lizard could make

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24 points

Green Hat Enterprise Linux

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24 points

Luigi Linux

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2 points

Green Tail EL

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SUSE-Powered Enterprise Linux. Tagline: It spells SPEL.

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5 points

New Hat Linux

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They announced something similar back in 2020 with a working title of “Liberty Linux”, so maybe that.

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Am I the only one old enough to remember the 2006 deal between Microsoft and Novell? Now Red Hat is on the hot seat with everyone blaming and hating, I remember when Novell was in similar position in terms of community feeling betrayed.

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SUSE does not belong to Novell anymore.

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Aged like milk with nowadays news about SUSE turning private again…

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There have been several acquisitions in the meantime, that’s true, but remembering the past helps not to be fooled again.

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Maybe it does, but since it’s not the same entity and SUSE now has full autonomy, it might be better to be cautiously confident? It’s my stand anyhow.

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More choice is good.

Suse are a decent company (despite some history under different owners) with some excellent engineers who already support foss projects like Uyuni. I don’t know much about their new CEO but this might be a pivotal point in their history.

Redhat are proving themselves unpredictable, and that’s about the worst thing any company wants to work with. No good having a stable product if the organisation itself is erratic and makes bad decisions.

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Why rhel/cent os is such a big deal? Cant ppl just use Debian / Ubuntu / alpine?

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RHEL gets enterprise support from RedHat / IBM.

Point is, if you work for some big corp, when you buy something, you want proper warranties meaning people to blame if it breaks down. I have seen corps want to pay for stuff available free just so they can point at someone if there’s a problem. Ubuntu is mostly fine, Canonical does offer support, but “nobody ever got fired for choosing IBM”.

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The enterprise support also means security updates, which is a huge requirement for government contract work (not just US, anything military really). I’ve also seen requirements for use of DISA approved products. I think at the time RHEL and maybe SUSE were the only ones on the list - I’m a few years removed from having to care about this.

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Switching is not always trivial.

I have a huge build that only works on EL7. It will take months of focused effort to unfuck that build code.

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EOL of version 7 is next year in June, you got a nice pile of work here!

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Thanks for the answers I learnt something new :)

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Professional applications (e.g. CAD,…) generally don’t support many distributions. In my field, RHEL and SLES are widely supported and a few tools also support Ubuntu.

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We’ve got over two hundred Rocky/Centos vms. all of them ‘pets’ that would require manual migration of lots of very different services, many of them bespoke. That’s quite a lot of work.

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