Israel ordered its state-run electricity company to halt supply to the Gaza Strip on Saturday after the Palestinian militant group Hamas launched a surprise attack on Israel, the energy minister said.

“I have signed an order instructing (Israel) Electric Company to stop the electricity supply to Gaza,” Energy Minister Israel Katz said in a statement.

At least 150 Israelis have been killed in the attacks launched by the Palestinian movement Hamas.

Israel said the Iran-backed group had declared war as its army confirmed fighting with militants in several Israeli towns and military bases near Gaza and Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu vowed to retaliate.

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This type of collective punishment against civilians is a war crime.

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I don’t think this is a “punishment.” It seems rather foolish to expect them to supply electricity to the people actively using the electricity to kill their civillians.

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Maybe Israel should have consider that before declaring the people of Palestine, as a whole second class citizens and slaves and erected a part-time between the two. Fuck israel and I hope they die

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The people of Palestine are not second-class citizens of Israel, they are first-class citizens of Palestine. There is only one level of citizenship in Israel, and all citizens are afforded the full rights of any citizen. Every concession Israel offered the Palestinians was either rejected or used as an opportunity to ramp up terrorism. Look up the Olmert deal. Look up the withdrawal from Gaza. Look up the god damn Peel commission. We’ve constantly been vying for peace, and we’ve constantly been made to regret it.

There is no slavery in Israel or Palestine. There is no “a part-time” either. If you’re gonna make up antisemitic lies, the least you could do is check your damn speech-to-text.

Fuck you, I hope you don’t die, I hope you learn the vile nature of your lies and hate and the ashes they leave on your mouth cause you to grow the fuck up.

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“to the people actively using electricity to kill their civilians”

Right. So you’re telling me they have data analysts that can precisely tell which buildings are occupied by hamas and which are occupied by civilians. You know, intel that would be worth a fortune for them considering that’s kinda their enemy and it would be an incredible chance to get rid of them once and for all. Notwithstanding the fact that they’d have to have the ability to individually toggle electricity for every building, which, I have a feeling, does not in fact work that way.

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Allow me to clarify.

Their first priority is to stop their citizens from dying.

If they need to cut off electricity to terrorists to do that, they will. If they need to cut off electricity to whole regions of the Gaza strip, or the Gaza strip altogether, to keep their people safe, they will.

More targeted enforcement would be preferred. Sure. But that’s not what I said was happening.

You know, intel that would be worth a fortune for them considering that’s kinda their enemy and it would be an incredible chance to get rid of them once and for all.

Fun fact, Israel is very good at intel. Israel can often find which building are occupied by Hamas.

Fun fact, Hamas enjoys operating from, and firing rockets from, civilian homes, mosques, hospitals, and schools. Here’s a handy list: https://kbin.social/m/Israel/t/368817/A-handy-list-of-sources-describing-where-Hamas-produces-stores

One of Israel’s greatest challenges is finding ways to stop terrorism given this unfortunate reality. They develop technology to try to detect civilian presence in these buildings, and to, in case they miss anybody, warn the civilians and give them time to evacuate.

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Not having that data is exactly the point, if they had that sure they could specifically cut power. But they don’t have that, and Hamas is mixing with civilians, so they’re forced to cut power across the board

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expect them to supply electricity to the people actively using the electricity to kill their civillians.

The second half of your comment refutes the first

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what? how so? Are you saying you do expect them to help Hamas kill Israeli civilians? Is “not being allowed to kill Israeli civilians” a form of punishment, to you?

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I might be wrong here, but i don’t think Hannah is using Tesla cannons to bomb Israel. How exactly does electricity factor into their plans?

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I’m not sure how Hamas makes and fires its current rockets, but I imagine there are at least lightbulbs involved in their process.

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The Israeli government is a disgrace. Shameful corrupt regime needs to be jailed for crimes against humanity.

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Be that as it may, no government in the world would leave today’s events unanswered for.

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Turns out when you treat a population as subhuman for over 50 years, some of them start doing some inhumane shit…

The solution is basic human decency, but asking the oppressed population to change before the oppressors never works out.

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Israel disengaged from Gaza almost twenty years ago now, ending the occupation and effectively giving the Palestinians the chance to have their own state.

Since then, Gaza has attacked Israel, targeting its civilians over, and over, and over, clearly showing that the desire for genocide is no less today amongst the Palestinian leadership than it was in 1948.

I highly doubt that Israel will ever repeat such concessions in the future. Simply put, it was a grave error with a cost that Israel is still paying in blood to this day. This current invasion by Hamas only reinforces the fact that Israel fundamentally cannot trust Palestinian leaders and must keep any autonomy with a very short leash.

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True, but they should target Hamas. Collective punishment is a war crime.

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They do target Hamas. Hamas likes to hide terrorist activity in homes, mosques, schools, and hospitals. Which is why Israel develops technology to try to ensure that there are no civilians present when it fires on a base of terrorist activity. And also why Israel uses a variety of technologies to warn any potential civilians who they might have missed that there is a counterattack coming to disable rocket fire. Hamas doesn’t mind the headlines when a few Palestinian civilians inevitably die in one of these counterstrikes. It’s part of the plan.

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The Palestinians are just answering the decades of colonialism and genocide they’ve received

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nothing in Israel has resembled colonialism since its founding. The British and Ottoman and other colonies were quite awful, but thankfully, those times are over, and the indigenous people of Judea are welcome there once again.

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Eye for an eye makes the whole world blind. Pretty sure hamas did these attacks because of what Israel did to them yesterday….

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Planned in less than a day, you think?

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The Jews of today are no better than the Nazis of yesteryear morally speaking

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No. If you are against Jews or Jewish people in general or even if you just think ill of them, you’re a fucking bigoted piece of shit.

I was talking about the Israeli government, not Jewish people.

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News flash, Israel is a Jewish state

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Unprovoked

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state-run electricity company

I wonder what the energy prices are like in Israel…

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That’s not even worth talking about, you should hear about Natanyahu’s ties to their phone and internet services. It is/was overt corruption to say the least.

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