133 points

If you knew absolutely nothing about anything just looking at the GOPs stance on Russia 30 years ago to now, shows you immediately how full of shit and propaganda the party is.

They’ve literally gone from fuck the reds to sucking Putins cock.

A complete 180 on their “values”, without even flinching…

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28 points

Yes, I believe they are called traitors.

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8 points

Better dead than red.

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Not to be that guy but Democrats were all up on Putins dick like 20 years ago. He came and spoke at some universities and denounced the war in Iraq. It was good publicity for him for sure. I thought he seemed pretty chill but I was barely a teenager yet.

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I was a leftist teenager in the W Bush years and I was very much pro-Putin/Russia. I even used to watch RT occasionally. It wasn’t until around 2012, with the handling of Pussy Riot that I started to look more closely at what modern Russia actually was, and what kind of leader Putin was. I remember laughing at Romney back in 2012 before all of that, when he said that Russia was out biggest threat. Fast forward to 2016 and I realised just how right he was, and I really don’t like agreeing with Mitt Romney.

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So what? Putin hadn’t gone full Nazi yet and was for the most part a respected world leader. The fact that he spoke up against the bullshit Iraq war, just shows that even assholes can be right occasionally.

Putin of 2000 is not Putin of 2020.

And furthermore, I’d say there’s a big difference between let him give a speech at a university and let him have Ukraine.

Not to be that guy, but you’re absolutely that guy looking for bOtH sIdEs false equivalencies.

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4 points

W: He has evil eyes.

Trump: Give him Ukraine, what could happen.

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1 point

Was this imagined time before or after W looked into his eyes and saw his soul and how good he would be for Russia?

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NATO WAS BUILT SPECIFICALLY TO OPPOSE RUSSIA, MORON!

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Who says Russia can’t join in on that goal? /j

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In fairness, in the very early 2000s, before it became obvious Russia was just going to continue being a dick, Russia was on the path of becoming a NATO ally.

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Which makes one wonder why they were still around after the collapse of the USSR. Well, they’ve managed to create jobs for themselves since then, so congrats to them.

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NATO was built to oppose the USSR, of which Russia was a member state. Do not confuse them. Modern Russia is feeling the effects of the Soviet era, but that doesn’t make them the same country.

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43 points

Although you are correct from a historical perspective, you are not from a foreign policy perspective.

With the dissolution of the USSR in 1991, the United States considered the Russian Federation as the successor state of the USSR.

Via The US State Department

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“Successor state” means the next state. Your own source disproved you. The successor states to Yugoslavia are not the same as Yugoslavia in that same manner.

Edit: since this is the most downvoted comment I’ve posted in this thread, I’m curious. Does anyone know why the US chose to so quickly recognize Russia as the successor state out of all of the former Soviet nations?

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You might be technically correct but the distinction largely does not matter in terms of the West taking a hard line against military aggression in Eastern Europe.

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This doesn’t make any sense. What military aggression?

Edit: aside from this ongoing war in the Ukraine, of which Russia is obviously the aggressor towards another former Soviet state (i.e. not towards the west)

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57 points

But he also fucks kids, so maybe his opinion isn’t worth much huh?

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24 points

Makes you wonder about what’s in his blackmail file that keeps him so willing to be a Kremlin mouthpiece.

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15 points

I bet he’s just being paid with money and fresh kids every month.

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47 points

Traitorous scumbag.

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37 points

Is this an alternative fuxking timeline we’re in?

Do republicans WANT to be seen as traitorous evil dixkheads? They seem to think they can spin anything and their idiot supporters will believe it, and, after trump, they’re probably right.

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41 points

It’s pretty insidious. I’ve seen Republicans wearing shirts that say things like, “I’d rather be Russian than Democrat.”

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I’m old enough to remember when the right was saying “better dead than red” (referring to the Soviet Union, not to “red/Republicans”). They went from “better dead than red” to “better Russian than Democrat” scarily quickly.

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That’s why Russia is putting up an internet-wide firewall. They know how effective they’ve been at weakening their enemies by manipulating conversations on the internet. They nearly took down our whole country not too long ago. And they are still dangerously close, as seen in the above story.

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It’s because they are against “Communism”, whatever that means, but the modern Russian state is seen by them as a model Capitalist country. They’re more likely to consider someone from San Francisco a Communist than someone from Russia.

It’s an Oligarchy, of course, but they see themselves as Oligarchs-in-training.

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There’s a bunch of people at the side of the road by the local mall every day with tons of flags and signs like “good bless America because Biden doesn’t” and “defund 🇺🇦 refund 🇺🇸”. Yet during protests by democrats they’re all going on about how the democrats protesting must have no jobs and should be working instead of protesting.

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