EndeavourOS is moving to KDE Plasma for its live environment and offline installer from Xfce. You’ll hear no complaints from me!
Endeavour has been great with Plasma. That’s how I’ve always configured it.
I can’t wait until they push the big Wayland update with KDE; I am using Wayland with an Nvidia card and it can be a bit unpredictable.
What big update? Wayland has been pretty usable (on AMD, anyway) for a while now.
Presumably Plasma 6.0, which will fix a large number of remaining Wayland issues via Qt 6.
Will that make it more usable for nvidia users? I hope to someday try SteamOS with nvidia but I think most of the wayland issues are what’s preventing that.
It’s not great on Nvidia. KDE’s dev team have announced a big Plasma update, specifically focused on Wayland support to be released around February.
I have a 3090 and some stuff works, some stuff doesn’t. I am forced to use it because X will lock refresh rates to the rate of the lowest monitor, so my 165hz screens were not being used to their fullest until I swapped over to Wayland which supports multiple monitor refresh rates.
Often I will find system components freezing up. The task bar, for example, will often stop being useable and freeze up. I have had the digital clock widget freeze up on me, which requires a relog to fix. It also doesn’t totally work on transparent themes, rendering them without the translucency.
The task bar, for example, will often stop being useable and freeze up. I have had the digital clock widget freeze up on me, which requires a relog to fix.
Thankfully this has been tracked down, and will be fixed for Plasma 6. If you run into it, you can hit Alt+F2 and run kwin_wayland --replace which will restart the shell.
If you go into edit mode, and edit the task bar widget that shows your running applications, disable the option that shows window previews upon hovering over the application. Apparently that is the thing that causes the renderer to fail on non Intel GPU systems. Here’s the bug report that goes over the whole history if you’re interested.
Definitely feel you on the overall Nvidia Wayland KDE issues. I really wish I was in a position to be able to pickup an AMD GPU.
I think for NVIDIA or other proprietary drivers like AMDGPUPRO, Ublue images are best. They have images that they build with the NVIDIA driver and everything preinstalled, if an update fails, they will simply not ship it, if it breaks something on your system, you simply roll back.
And in contrast to regular Fedora Atomic (Silverblue, Kinoite,…) it has all the Codecs and drivers included, so you can directly run things like Resolve or Games on it with minor installation.
I use EndeavourOS with KDE and it’s wonderful!
Does anyone know offhand the issues Calamares has with Xfce?
“KDE Plasma offers a more native development experience for the team and therefore it is easier to maintain. This is the main and only reason for this switch”
As a user I switched from KDE to XFCE, and found it to be an improvement. But I’ve never done any development involving Xfce.
Well, they’re both pretty good.
Xfce starts off closer to the way I like things and requires less messing around with the config to get it all the way there. It changes less frequently, which I appreciate. It uses slightly less memory, seems to go wrong less often, and has fewer things I have no interest in like ‘kwallet’ or whatever. And I appreciate what seems to me its more approachably modular nature (which I’ve used only for a couple of minor things.)
EndeavourOS is the distro that stopped my distro-hopping addiction. Installed it over a year ago and haven’t left since. Now this made me love it even more. KDE plasma has come along ways. I think Nate Graham has a lot to do with the progress Plasma made. Dude is awesome (so is every other volunteer of course).
Great news. Seems that most of the community uses KDE anyway, so this should make things faster for most installations
