I’ve been eyeing these devices for some time now. The price point is… delicious!
I saw some opensource-ish project one day that mentioned that they are building an OS around Plex and other media servers and using these N5105s and selling the package for USD500ish (I think).
So I went hunting for the hardware and found it on Aliexpress for that cheap (sub USD200).
Does anyone have experience running these? How hard is it to get Ubuntu running on them? I dislike that they ship with Windows 11. Would be a few bucks cheaper if they shipped with Ubuntu or no OS, right?
Also, what about running docker on them? Can they support your usual homelab stuff? Portainer, Pi-hole, *arr softwares, a dashboard, etc.
I use a similar one of these (different io panel and case) for OPNSense and it’s been a delight. Not sure how well it would handle Plex but if you don’t need to transcode the files it should be fine. I bought one without ram, os, and storage for $150 last year. That listing isn’t available anymore.
wish these companies making soft routers would give a couple options with a nas case instead. 4 bay n5105 or n100 for cheap would be a nice low power side grade to my old e3,
Yeah. There are a lot of them, all pretty good. servethehome has done reviews for many- N100 version
If they removed all but one 2.5gbe port, it might not even be any more expensive to give 4 sata and a case.
Have a J4125 driving an entertainment center fairly competently, was eyeing a N5105 as a personal device.
What all do you run on it? Does it support 4K streaming? Remote Plex users or just local for you?
Just local, streams 4k fairly OK but will studder sometimes, not enough to be a problem in general but if you want a perfect image full time you might be disappointed.
Its primarily a media player and runs 8 and 16 bit emulators. Haven’t tried anything more ambitious yet. It streams content from my NAS just fine. I don’t think multiple users would work on it for video streaming however others uses maybe.
Thanks for the rundown. My other usecase is running a GitHub Runner and running some CI/CD or automations kind of work. Some data pipeline work, some npm builds. Right now that all runs on my main Windows PC that’s also the media center and gaming PC. Overloaded that fella, so thinking of expanding the homelab to purpose-based machines.
I use an N5105 for my Opnsense firewall and run Adguard Home on it as well. Installing software on it was incredibly easy. Mine was barebones, had no OS, and it has an American Megatrends BIOS so it was as easy as selecting boot from USB.
I have no doubt it could run a small homelab. I have my Unraid running on a worse quad core gen 4 i5 processor (20+ docker images, 1 VM).
The only downside I would point out is that some of these things are passively cooled and put out some HEAT. It looks like yours has a fan so that’s nice. Maybe another would be Plex transcoding… depending on how many people you have on your Plex you maybe could run into some transcoding issues.
I run Plex on essentially one of these (different case, but n5105/8gb ram, bought from AliExpress) and they’re great little machines for it. Most of my library is 1080p, but I have run 2 simultaneous 4k transcodes before and it just keeps chugging along happily. I’m actually running proxmox on it, with Plex being just one container out of several, so it also has the grunt to do several simultainious streams and keep my mastodon server, torrent box, pihole, and a few other things running at the same time. In my experience, you’ll run out of ram before ever chocking the CPU on a standard setup, so it might be worth upping to the n100 to get 16gs instead.
It wouldn’t be any cheaper for them to ship without windows, because the windows os youre getting from aliexpress sellers selling budget pcs is almost always counterfeit :p but installing Linux on them is a breeze, they’ve got a full standard uefi BIOS, so just plug a USB stick with Ubuntu on it in, and install as usual.
damn! Thanks for the LD. Did not expect you to say the Win will be fake :D But good to know about the RAM situation. I mentioned this elsewhere that the 5105 seems to do better GPU than the N100. So if some other seller has a 5105 with 16 GB RAM, I’ll go for that instead. Man I wanna play with proxmox. Just never had an idle machine to do that. Maybe this will be it.
Getting proxmox to pass the GPU through to containers is a little fiddly, but it got a lot easier since they moved to the 6.x kernel, and there’s plenty of guides around. It could well be worth a look if you want to run multiple servers on one device
As for the GPU, they’re unlikely to make a huge difference either way, but note that the n5105 has no hardware support for the AV1 codec, so any media you have or end up with in that format will need decoding on the CPU. The n100 igpu has hardware decode instead, so if you think you might end up with any av1 content, then that’s the way to go.
How about proxmox running GitHub runners? Maybe it can run a few containers, each running an independent GitHub runner which can pick up different tasks in parallel?
AV1 content… I don’t think I have need for it. But maybe I’m wrong? I have an Apple TV and iOS devices running Plex apps. Do those need AV1 now?
