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The biggest thing that I can see that needs to be done would be shutting down “news” organizations like FOX News, OAN, and Newsmax. Also, breaking up online movements like Q where blatant misinformation is spread as if it’s proven truth.

Now, HOW you do that without massive first amendment violations, I don’t know. You would also need to be careful how it’s structured because that could easily be used to shut down anyone left of center should a Republicans take the presidency/control Congress.

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Gotta look at that right wing radio cabal also

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Since that is over actual airwaves, reinstating the Fairness Doctrine would fix that very fast.

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2 points

Extend FCC regs and licensing to cable and streaming services while we’re at it.

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33 points

Education and critical thinking skills. Which is why they want to defund public schools so all children can be indoctrinated in “Christian” private schools.

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you do it with massive funding to public education for generations.

which is why massive first amendment violations are more likely

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There’s no need to shut them down:

“The fairness doctrine of the United States Federal Communications Commission (FCC), introduced in 1949, was a policy that required the holders of broadcast licenses both to present controversial issues of public importance and to do so in a manner that fairly reflected differing viewpoints. In 1987, the FCC abolished the fairness doctrine”

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FCC_fairness_doctrine

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The problem, even if we reinstated this, is that this applied to broadcast only. This wouldn’t apply to cable channels. Neither would it apply to Internet groups. Both of those would still be free to spout full blown lies and conspiracy theories dressed up as “news.”

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It would definitely need updating to include cable, things have changed a lot since 1987. As for the internet, I don’t see how that could be enforced other than to classify sites as publishers and make them liable for the content they host.

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5 points

Shutting down Facebook would be huge. It’s a cesspool of propaganda.

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A lot of social media and sites with algorithms are problematic. They tend to steer people to content that’s more and more radical in nature. You start out with innocuous stuff, but the more extreme the content, the bigger the reaction, and thus the algorithm will guide the user to more of that content. (Ryan George illustrated this perfectly: https://youtu.be/x1aZEz8BQiU?si=g3xw0tbDV-4vSyCH )

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87 points

Stop mentioning Hillary. She’s old news. She’s as relevant to 2023 politics as hunter biden.

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No kidding, I don’t know why she feels the need to insert herself in this year’s politics with this super divisive “cult deprogramming” language/narrative. Not that a lot of folks don’t need to step down from the rhetoric of violence and demagoguery that’s a big part of MAGA, they absolutely, do… but seriously, Hillary, you are such an unnecessary bull in the china shop on this right now. Like her or hate her, I think it’s a pretty objective statement that bringing the temperature down and bringing people together just isn’t something her presence and choice of language in this debate is going to accomplish.

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18 points

She shares the blame for Trump being elected. She campaigned shittily and she was a shitty candidate. The DNC conspiracy to prop her up as the chosen nominee is also to blame.

Those elements combined with Obama hate from Trumptards and the Russian propaganda all over social media produced the result we got.

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She campaigned shittily and she was a shitty candidate.

That literally IS Russian propaganda.

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5 points

She’s arrogant. Simple as.

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5 points

Well, did she insert herself here or did someone do it for her for clickbait

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4 points

Probably because she’s not planning on running so she can say what she really thinks without giving a fuck about whether it offends some people’s delicate sensibilities?

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13 points

Came in here to say basically this. The fact that they used Hilary as the image for this articles headline killed any credibility instantly. She is not relevant and hasn’t been since she lost. There is zero positives to bringing her up. Unless you want an example of exactly how not to run a presidential campaign.

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2 points

I just clicked because I wanted to be sure she wasn’t running in 2024

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5 points

What? You mean to say it isn’t her turn?

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5 points

I saw the link was from Salon.com… as relevant to politics as TMZ is to climate change.

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3 points

The thumbnail with her in it made sure I wasn’t going to open the article. Her bullshit backroom campaign from the primaries through the election gave Trump the Oval Office.

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Yes let’s all continue ignoring the people who were warned us about the dangers of a Trump presidency.

Surely she doesn’t know what she’s talking about. Also she is not wrong.

But you know fake internet points on a reddit knock off matter more, apparently.

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Literally everyone with half a fucking brain knew Trump would be terrible. The fact that she was so unlikable and ran such a bad campaign that people didn’t bother to show up and vote for her tells you everything. She needs to shut the fuck up, and disappear.

The mere sight of her face makes me not want to vote Democrat. I never was one, and her attempts to shame me into voting for her only made me think about that more. The “big tent party” needs more than fear mongering to win elections. I don’t really care for Joe Biden either, but I didn’t feel ill voting for him. He didn’t tell me I owed it to him, that I had to vote for him or I was deplorable. He at least said a few things that made me want to vote.

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I’m not saying she’s wrong. I’m saying she’s irrelevant at this point. if for some reason you don’t like this social network, you should go back to Reddit

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-4 points

Hahahahhaha how to forget the crackhead of son of pressident that we have. It only shows how good of a father the president is

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4 points

Probably better than yours

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Im sure he is, best example our president says :) hahaha a crackhead hahahhah

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40 points

I have a hard time taking this article seriously. I don’t understand why it feels the need to tout HC so fiercely. I guess she was right about “deplorables” but everyone else was correct in pegging her as an out of touch elite. The DNC’s inability to back candidates that can help working class people continually emboldens right-wing extremists. It’s not hard to see how the Dems’ center-right stances open the door for far-right reactions. Yes, they are deplorables but HC is not one of the good guys.

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39 points

Republicans are programmed due to their echo chambers. People who don’t even follow the news have been shown to be more informed than Republicans who watch and listen to conservative media.

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Just curious, do you think the programming due to echo chambers applies to Democrats as well?

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36 points

I think it’s pretty obvious one side is operating totally outside of reality where the other is not. Are democrats peddling stolen election lies and denying the existence of COVID?

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The research doesn’t indicate this. Everyone is prone to echo chambers, but left leaning folks tend to have more diversified news sources, which is the balance to negate echo chambers.

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If only people knew the truth! The issue is: That’s not how information actually works. Despite what you are told, social media and the internet often increase the range of views to which people are exposed. Algorithms are less likely to create a echo chamber for you than living in a neighborhood surrounded by Republicans with limited media.

So what are echo chambers, really? They are epistemic bubbles, where other voices are not heard; in echo chambers, other voices are actively undermined. When they get contrary information that doesn’t match their preconceived beliefs, they dismiss it. It confirms what they already believe—they’re wrong.

While privately owned social media companies can influence us, they’re hardly the only things that do. Our core ideologies and values are determined by everything from where we grew up to whom we love, to the actual impact of politics on our lives. Fixing Facebook wouldn’t solve the problem of many echo chambers—your family’s opinions, your friend’s bigoted talking points—even if it’s a good idea.

In a way, those who worry about echo chambers are too hopeful. Many voters really do want Trump, Brexit, and other things that liberals abhor. A lot of people do not care, deep down, about democracy. Better information might not be a panacea for that, even if it would slow down a conspiracy theory like QAnon.

That is the main difference of the two sides, Liberals get a multifaceted message with various perspectives and they latch onto those messages that most resonate with them. Conservatives on the other hand only get one perspective and thus rarely hear opposing views in context.

Which side you land on largely has to do with your personal environment.

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It does. Their propaganda is that equality matters but they maintain status quo with minimal progress. They definitely prioritize corporate interests over gen pop.

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1 point

Of course it does

The Internet has made people flock to places where people think like them.

Additionally, FaceBook, Google News, and many other sites intentionally show users material that it knows they will interact with to trigger dopamine releases. It’s addictive by design.

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6 points

I don’t understand why the DNC (as in the actual organization, not Democrat voters) is so god damn obsessed with Hillary. It feels like they would crown her queen if they could. Makes me wonder if she has some dirt on key people in their organization or something.

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I think it has something to do with Democrats still feeling “hurt” over the absurdity of the Clinton impeachment and other sham issues Republicans have with her, that they have some need to redeem her image. Letting her go feels like accepting a loss.

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Are they obsessed, or is it just that she’s not campaigning for anything and so she’s ripe for the media junket?

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I have a hard time taking this article seriously.

Not a surprise given it’s from Salon. It’s a shitrag. I haven’t read this article but I’ve noticed a pattern based on other articles being posted around Lemmy. A third is rabble-rousing and pandering to the virtue signaling far left. Half is adjacent filler content. The rest is a valid meaningful point worthy of real discussion and has little to do with the headline.

Just noting the comment below about “Republicans are programmed due to their echo chambers”… Dude, if you believe that’s a republican-only phenomenon, you have been programmed by the echo chamber you follow. I’d love a source for “people who don’t follow the news have been shown to be more informed than republicans”.
Speaking of “echo chambers”, that full of shit comment is getting upvoted. You might find yourself currently inside the echo chamber.

As a liberal progressive, I’m worried that so many of us are falling prey to the tactics that have worked for conservative media for decades. I thought we were supposed to be more intelligent. It seems like tribalism really is all that matters - intellectualism be damned.

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I’d love a source for “people who don’t follow the news have been shown to be more informed than republicans”.

https://www.businessinsider.com/study-watching-fox-news-makes-you-less-informed-than-watching-no-news-at-all-2012-5

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Yeah, it’s not hard to find. Shame you had to do it for them.

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40 points

Back in the day, their grandparents happily filled public swimming pools with cement rather than accept allowing ‘others’ to have a good time.

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Defunding and privatization of public schools also started for similar reasons

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