Hamas has called on Palestinians to stay in their homes after Israel issued sweeping evacuation orders for almost half of Gaza’s more than 2.3 million people ahead of an expected ground offensive.

The Hamas authority for refugee affairs today told residents in the north of the territory to “remain steadfast in your homes and to stand firm in the face of this disgusting psychological war waged by the occupation”.

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Crucial missing context: Israel bombed the way out when people tried to take it.

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Between both sides, are there any military lor political leaders that care about Palestinian civilian lives in war? This whole thing is fucked.

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Israeli tactics to steal lands.

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Some things to consider:

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Check out some maps of Israel-Palestine over time and tell me whether fleeing Palestinians will ever get their homes back

Did you notice how the Gazan border in 1967 was the SE as it was in 2005? What did the map look like in 1990? Is the reason you didn’t include that map is that it would have shown a return of land in the Gaza strip done so without a war by Israel to demonstrate that peace based on the 1967 borders could function. I also noticed your maps ignored the Sinai, another example of where Israel has shown a willingness to give up land for peace.

If there was a realistic shot that return land won in warfare would lead to lasting peace, Israel would do so.

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I know we’re all fighting but I think this guy has a point.

I’m pretty sure Israel and Palestine were closer to peace in 94 than they ever have been but then Zionists assassinated Rabin.

After that Actually kinda the whole time the US and UK refused to work with Hamas and in 97 they declared Hamas a terrorist organization.

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I mean Hamas clearly is a terrorist organization. How many raped corpses do they have to drag through the streets to prove it?

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They care enough about peace to give land back in pursuit of it. There are multiple political parties in Israel. The ones that engineered the Gazan deal got voted in because the majority of Israeli’s wanted to create a peace deal based on the 1967 borders. And the coalition they put together didn’t have the political power to unilaterally do it all at once a after the PLA pulled out of the Oslo Accords. So, they hung their hat on establishing peace in the Gazan strip in a manner that could be a model for the establishment of peace across the region. In the same way that they dismantled settlements and returned oil installations in the Gazan strip to Egypt in search of lasting peace; they did the same to the Palestinians in the Strip.

But unlike Egypt, Gazans responded with neverending war.

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Idk, the chemical weapons and internal whistle blowing dont agree with your guess.

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When arned people ask you to not leave it’s called a hostage situation. The mean age in Gaza is 18 years old so we’re talking about kids and parents being told by men with guns to not leave.

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When armed people ask you to leave it’s called an illegal invasion. The mean age in Gaza is 18 years old so we’re talking about kids and parents being told by men with guns to abandon their homes forever.

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no, it’s war. you can’t attack another country and claim it’s illegal when they cross the borders after you

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Are you trying to justify the Israeli terrorist bombing on Gaza City? Or are you trying to justify the Hamas terrorist attack of Oct 7?

If we continue to give in to this revenge-driven, bloodthirsty logic then this conflict will never end.

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fuck hamas and fuck the idf, but this comment and the one you replied to are quite reductive

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